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70sEraVet

(4,548 posts)
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:47 AM May 9

It is looks like Dump reserves one type of insult for a specific group....

See if you can find what these people have in common.



I really didn't need more reasons to hate the man.

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It is looks like Dump reserves one type of insult for a specific group.... (Original Post) 70sEraVet May 9 OP
Yeah. The Bell Curve (1994) underpants May 9 #1
Yep- I remember when this book was the topic of discussion Redleg May 9 #27
Herrnstein, the actual researcher, died before it was finished underpants May 9 #28
Herrnstein was no angel. valleyrogue May 10 #30
I didn't know that. underpants May 10 #31
Herrnstein was peddling this filth long before Murray. valleyrogue May 10 #32
I have been a bit sceptical of the "evolutionary psychology" field Redleg May 11 #33
It ian' t a real science but is purely political valleyrogue May 11 #34
I guess that is one way to frame it. Redleg May 12 #35
45 knows "low IQ person" up close and personal Ritabert May 9 #2
Every accusation BigMin28 May 9 #8
"45" believes that is a reference to the 45th president...its his actual IQ!! (n/t) Moostache May 9 #24
Yeah, that's been pretty obvious for a few years now...nt Wounded Bear May 9 #3
Lol hildegaard28 May 9 #4
just remember he is projecting RANDYWILDMAN May 9 #5
AND accomplished, in ways that actually matter. eppur_se_muova May 9 #7
Vote for a bigot - you are a bigot. Pretty simple to me. 617Blue May 9 #6
Totally agree! markpkessinger May 9 #22
Low values, low morals, low decency Trump should hang his head in shame. democrank May 9 #9
he should, barbtries May 9 #15
He'll call Pope Leo a low IQ person very soon - because the pope has Creole lineage dalton99a May 9 #10
I don't know, judging by the list you've given whathehell May 9 #20
He damn well better NOT!!! calimary May 9 #21
In this life, you're as good as the respect you have for others. usonian May 9 #11
I KNOW --- I KNOW THAT ONE --------- CHOOSE ME 3Hotdogs May 9 #12
And Eric and Jr. have as high an IQ as their dad. republianmushroom May 9 #13
the lowest IQ individual to inhabit the WH barbtries May 9 #14
He DEFINITELY doesn't know.. one when he sees one.. dchill May 9 #16
He is too stupid and too uneducated to understand that "IQ" is a nonsense... NNadir May 9 #17
Spin Iamscrewed May 9 #18
"Low IQ Person" is his personal racist euphemism. forgotmylogin May 9 #19
As my mother would say... Bluejeans May 9 #23
You just can't have a high IQ and consciously get into a pissing match with any of those three women, mjvpi May 9 #25
trump is a racist who thinks that all minorities are beneath himi LetMyPeopleVote May 9 #26
Trump is an asshole. Joinfortmill May 10 #29
Hmmmm, I Wonder Why?!!! Hideous Scum, remember his Obama complaints, too. Not surprised! electric_blue68 May 12 #36
Al Green, Stephanie Rhul, and Mika Brzezinski are women of color? Ms. Toad May 12 #37
You are right, Ms. Toad. 70sEraVet May 13 #38

underpants

(190,861 posts)
1. Yeah. The Bell Curve (1994)
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:50 AM
May 9

Scientific racist - the writer. This became a dog whistle from back then.

Redleg

(6,503 posts)
27. Yep- I remember when this book was the topic of discussion
Fri May 9, 2025, 02:20 PM
May 9

It gave racists a "scientific" reason for their racism. As I recall, the American Psychological Association commissioned a taskforce to investigate this and they had a good number of criticisms for the book. First of all, there was no peer-review process. Second, the authors made some erroneous inferences based on their data in favoring the genetics explanation without due consideration of environmental and social impacts.

underpants

(190,861 posts)
28. Herrnstein, the actual researcher, died before it was finished
Fri May 9, 2025, 02:52 PM
May 9

So Charles Murray just took his data and used it to back his preconceived result. Murray has made a lot of money as a speaker ever since.

It was not only not peer reviewed but when the data used was evaluated by several (really all of them) actual experts they couldn’t find anything or any way to come to what Murray included in the book.

valleyrogue

(2,115 posts)
30. Herrnstein was no angel.
Sat May 10, 2025, 02:26 AM
May 10

He wrote a long article in 1971 for The Atlantic about "I.Q." which created a storm of controversy.

He was one of many in academia upset that minorities and especially women were gaining a foothold in academia thanks to affirmative action. This attitude lay at the root of the dubious popularity of the pseudoscience of "evolutionary psychology," then called "sociobiology."

Herrnstein taken to task: https://archive.scienceforthepeople.org/vol-4/v4n2/public-statement-herrnstein-controversy/

underpants

(190,861 posts)
31. I didn't know that.
Sat May 10, 2025, 06:39 AM
May 10

Sounds like they almost had the book written and then found something to support it in their minds.

valleyrogue

(2,115 posts)
32. Herrnstein was peddling this filth long before Murray.
Sat May 10, 2025, 10:04 AM
May 10

Murray simply capitalized on it because it seemed to support his own racist, sexist, "libertarian" notions.

Redleg

(6,503 posts)
33. I have been a bit sceptical of the "evolutionary psychology" field
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:55 AM
May 11

since I first read about it. People like Jordan Peterson don't give me much reason to change my mind about it.

valleyrogue

(2,115 posts)
34. It ian' t a real science but is purely political
Sun May 11, 2025, 10:02 AM
May 11

dressed up in scientific trappings. It was always a mostly a anti-feminist reaction to women's increasing foothold in society. It tries to justify male assholery by claiming it is all biological. MRAs like Peterson use it as a weapon in support of patriarchy.

Redleg

(6,503 posts)
35. I guess that is one way to frame it.
Mon May 12, 2025, 05:11 PM
May 12

I am in an I-O pyschology-adjacent field (organizational behavior) and so haven't had much exposure to the EP stuff in grad school. I assumed EP's emphasis was on the universal, hard-wired aspects of the psychological processes.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,053 posts)
5. just remember he is projecting
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:07 AM
May 9

the people he hates the most are smart and self assured, something he is clearly NOT !

What a dirtbag, he is, my apologies to dirt bags, he is much worse than that

eppur_se_muova

(39,067 posts)
7. AND accomplished, in ways that actually matter.
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:13 AM
May 9

Turnip *thinks* he's self-assured, but he's actually self-deluded.

And I'm not about to call him "self-possessed". He's clearly possessed, but not that kind of possessed.

markpkessinger

(8,742 posts)
22. Totally agree!
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:33 PM
May 9

As I have often pointed out to right wing bigots who insist they are not racist because "I would never use the n-word" (or some equally lame reason), when you provide food, water and plenty of sunshine to bigotry, it matters little whether you, yourself, use such language or engage in openly bigoted behavior!"

democrank

(11,491 posts)
9. Low values, low morals, low decency Trump should hang his head in shame.
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:18 AM
May 9

He offers NOTHING that benefits mankind.

barbtries

(30,449 posts)
15. he should,
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:54 PM
May 9

but he never ever will. his pathology circumvents it. he can be humiliated and know he's been humiliated, but he will never have the introspection or empathy required to experience shame. never.

whathehell

(30,162 posts)
20. I don't know, judging by the list you've given
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:22 PM
May 9

that particular insult seems reserved for Women of color only.

calimary

(86,496 posts)
21. He damn well better NOT!!!
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:25 PM
May 9

You’re going to have to face it, donald. Whether you like it or not. Whether you want to or not.

The Pope has a bigger following than YOU will EVER have!!! EVER and EVER, AMEN!!!

Frankly, EVERY Pope will have a bigger following than you’ve ever had, on into the future.

usonian

(17,990 posts)
11. In this life, you're as good as the respect you have for others.
Fri May 9, 2025, 11:39 AM
May 9

Some kook said something similar long ago.

republianmushroom

(20,062 posts)
13. And Eric and Jr. have as high an IQ as their dad.
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:42 PM
May 9

Geniuses, if the instructions are printed on the heel.

barbtries

(30,449 posts)
14. the lowest IQ individual to inhabit the WH
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:53 PM
May 9

(never mind gw) is definitely stupid and deranged enough to believe that just being Black means a person is stupid. that's how fucking stupid he is.

Jasmine Crockett's brilliance is in his face but he cannot see it over the color of her skin. that's how fucking stupid he is.

forgotmylogin

(7,858 posts)
19. "Low IQ Person" is his personal racist euphemism.
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:11 PM
May 9

Whereas "DEI" is the administration-wide catch-all racist, phobic, misogynist term.

Bluejeans

(108 posts)
23. As my mother would say...
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:37 PM
May 9

..."It takes one to know one!"

So following my mother's saying, Trump is a low IQ person who can recognize another low IQ person!

mjvpi

(1,642 posts)
25. You just can't have a high IQ and consciously get into a pissing match with any of those three women,
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:44 PM
May 9

Ms. Toad

(37,003 posts)
37. Al Green, Stephanie Rhul, and Mika Brzezinski are women of color?
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:19 PM
May 12

He had called all three low IQ individuals.

Chat GPT is designed to be conversational, not factual.

70sEraVet

(4,548 posts)
38. You are right, Ms. Toad.
Tue May 13, 2025, 09:29 AM
May 13

I just did a google search of "trump says low IQ" and it turns out he reserves that phrase for only the people he wishes to insult!

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