What are DU opinions on Scott Galloway?

[misanthrope]

Galloway considers himself a Democrat, although he can seem kind of socially conservative to me. His bent toward reaching out to the manosphere and embracing knuckle-draggers seems outright regressive to me. I don't know how much ground can be gained among citizens who are so proud of their ignorance, who have been manipulated so far and so easily by pop culture and telecommunications despite having every opportunity to learn rational thought.

[Joinfortmill]

1. Can't quite figure him. But my spidey senses are twitching.

[hlthe2b]

7. Trust your instincts... n/t

[stopdiggin]

2. How 'bout, "if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck .." ?

[Celerity]

3. Scott Galloway: 'We've essentially become a kleptocracy that would make Putin blush' (Nicolle Wallace show) 8 May 2025

[hlthe2b]

6. Your headline makes my point downstream. Just enough rational comments/talking points to reel us in WHILE

then proceeding to blame all manner of problems (especially those of young white men) on Democrats, their policies and women. But, it fools a lot who then buy his bullshit and his books (and he sells a lot of them).



Discussing the kleptocracy does not excuse his blatant blame of the left (leftist women) for the incel culture... But, as in a well-delivered Ted Talk, many are taken in.

[KT2000]

4. I think he has a worthwhile message

regarding young men. The first time I heard him on the topic - I reacted as if he was promoting a more aggressive culture for young men. The next time, I listened more carefully.
I think he makes a good case that young men are lost right now. The expectations of them are the same as they have ever been but the playing field has changed. Women expect more from the men in their lives and young men have not figured out what that is. They feel they are in competition with young women now and the women are more energized for their future. They may be more afraid of approaching young women socially as well. Also, young men are still trapped in the need to compete with other men but the avenues for doing so are more limited. Rather than compete, they are dropping out. Galloway talks about the young men living in their parents' basements and the high rate of suicide in young men.

There will always be the automatic winners in society - those that will succeed as a given. The vast majority though have to struggle to find their place in the world. Going to college gives young people an opportunity to figure out their place but college is not for everyone. Young men who are not sure of their place or future are then vulnerable to a lot of influences while they figure it out. I do believe they need more education in social matters so they can navigate changing social mores.

[misanthrope]

8. If our educational system was doing its job

Those young men would learn how to question who they are and the forces that shaped them. They would learn how think critically and rationally.

But that wouldn't make them dependable consumers, now would it?

[hlthe2b]

5. I think he is a blatant misogynist but throws in just enough TED TALK-like talking points to sound rational

and manages to fool his audience into thinking "how reasoned" he is. I see he has fooled a lot here as well as he repeats his defense of incels while pointing the blame for increasing suicide rates among young white males (ignoring the increase in suicide rates among other demographics, especially the elderly of both genders) directly on Democrats and Democratic policies/attitudes.

I saw his Deadline Whitehouse interview and realize why some are taken in. But, perhaps, think why you would want to laud someone who is agreeing with RW talking points while blaming Democrats (i.e., you and I) for all the problems.

Just enough rational comments thrown in to fool people, as any good author should do to sell his books-- and he DOES.

BULLSHIT.

[elocs]

9. Well all I can say is that it's a good thing you are here to set us all straight. n/t

[hlthe2b]

10. If you disagree don't you owe us your take?

I sense the snark in your comment. If I am wrong, my apologies, but otherwise, perhaps you should express your viewpoints?

[Mz Pip]

17. I didn't get that

I listen to his interview with Nicole Wallace. I didn’t get the sense he agreed with the conservative talking points, only that they were really good at marketing them. We’re in denial if we deny that.

[Hekate]

18. This

[hlthe2b]

22. My reply #21 appears to be appopriate to you as well.

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Too many are buying into RW memes--especially anti-Democratic party, anti-DEI, which is appalling to me. Even if loudly intermixed with anti-MAGA economic points upon which we ALL agree.

IS THAT REALLY THE DIRECTION YOU WANT THE DEMS TO GO--to ignore everyone EXCEPT YOUNG WHITE MALES? To NOT buy into the former does NOT equate that DEMS should not care about that group or to not address any wrong impression that we do not include them in policy--only that it should never be the ONLY group we focus on. Do you really not agree with my last statement? Galloway does not. Read his books or listen to a podcast of his and not be bought into his smooth, yet derogatory and conflating talk. His background is as a MARKETER and boy does he market his talking points.

[hlthe2b]

20. Like I said, he is intelligent (sufficiently so) to FOCUS on discounting the RW talking points to

again, agreement with a liberal audience. You then miss what he is NOT saying and there was a lot when he focused on Democrats being to blame for a resentful young white male culture. Not a word about young Hispanic or black or females who may feel likewise left behind. NOT ONE WORD. Go read one of his books. He can make for a useful TED talk but his attitude towards women is not discussed. The books, on the other hand. His career has been as a high level business marketer. His podcast likewise is worth a listen. You will likely agree with his economic points but his key talking point is that DEMS do not single out young men (and he points to largely white educational institutions when he makes that point, so yeah, young WHITE men) for special focus to counter the RW. So, basically ignore EVERYONE ELSE.


Yes, he calls out MAGA a lot on economic issues which fools a lot of people, including many here because we would largely ALL agree with that. But, people like him are going to have us losing the midterms with his constant blaming of DEMS for everything. I remind you that BLACK women have been the hallmark of DEM support in close elections for decades--on both the local and national level. How do you think they will feel when once again, young WHITE men become the SOLE focus? The ONLY FOCUS. Is that your favored approach? Really?

[hlthe2b]

21. To conflate DEMS (myself included) desire to address the entire young population, regardless of sex, race with

not caring because we don't single out YOUNG WHITE MALES at the exclusion of young black, brown, Asian, other MALE OR FEMALES feeling that they are losing out in society is EXACTLY what the RW and MAGA WANTS. NO DEI, no care for anyone BUT their own group.

I don't deny that Dems have issues with messaging and with the very wrong perception that WE are the party of the elite.

But, I refuse to allow Galloway, you, or anyone else to claim that the ONLY focus of the Democratic party must be WHITE and MALE--regardless of age. That we have American society has left behind ALL ther rest since its creation is FACT. It appears that Your and Galloway's demands are that we cement that policy PERMANENTLY.

[Mz Pip]

30. He never said

that Dems need to focus only on White males.

[hlthe2b]

32. He never mentions anyone but males AND concern for YOUNG males; that is the limit of his social concern.

If you've never listened to his podcasts, read other interviews or his books, you don't know what you are talking about and are being misled. Most of us DO care.

He says things we can all agree on. It is what he fails to be concerned with and fails to discuss that we should all be disturbed by. Read his books. He's no hero and he sure as hell is not the spokesperson we need--playing in, as he does right into MAGA anti-DEI memes and deploying their accusations against the Democrats. That SHOULD concern you too.

[hlthe2b]

38. You needn't listen to me. Listen to him:

https://www.instagram.com/professor_neil/reel/C9SpWJPOMY-/?hl=en

[LetMyPeopleVote]

11. I was not impressed

I watched the Deadline White House interview and came away not impressed.

[Hekate]

12. He had a 30 min interview w Nicolle Wallace & **it closely echoed a recent convo w our 20 yo grandson**

We are in our late 70s and the kid is not yet 21 — I in particular had a hard time accepting what he was trying to tell us about his generation of young men and their alienation.

Then just a few days later came the Scott Galloway interview. I thought it was great, frankly, as it explained so much. Later in the day I watched it again with my husband. Took a few notes, including title of upcoming book.

For those who didn’t watch it all the way through, I recommend going back with an open mind, thinking about some young man you actually know and care about. And think about this stat that Galloway gave: If you visit a morgue with 5 bodies of suicides, 4 of them will be young men.

Now I’m ready to talk to the kid again — only this time I will listen.

[misanthrope]

13. Did he give any comparative statistics with suicides in the past?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women

The trend goes back a long way. "As long as we've been recording it, we've seen this disparity," says psychologist Jill Harkavy-Friedman, vice-president of research for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, a health organisation that supports those affected by suicide.

CDC data below shows Non-Hispanic American Indian/Alaska Natives as the highest risk group.

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html#:~:text=Some%20groups%20have%20disproportionately%20high%20rates%20of%20suicide.&text=The%20suicide%20rate%20among%20males,but%20nearly%2080%25%20of%20suicides

[Hekate]

14. I used to take notes of lectures etc that were a virtual transcript. Thanks to arthritis in my hands...

...l am no longer able to do that at all. (I type on an iPad keyboard, mostly two-finger because of the size, tappy tappy, no letter formation with pen or pencil)

For those who would like a more complete précis of this interview, I suggest checking to see if MSNBC provides a transcript, or if there is a YouTube extract of the interview.

Galloway brought up some things I had heard before, such as the slower brain development of boys vs girls, including all levels of IQ. Classrooms, I read many years ago, always had to be tailored to bring little boys along, and middle school boys, and high school boys — while girls were assumed to be on track regardless. He didn’t reference that specifically, but I read it in a feminist publication some decades ago, and it clicked with what he did say.

He brought up something that has bothered me for years, and that is the hyper-emphasis on a college education. “Where are the high school shop classes, the woodworking classes?” (Where, in other words, are the hands-on skills that cannot be shipped overseas? Apprenticeship programs? sez I)

What he had to say about women’s votes really struck me. He said that women often vote for what they think their husbands need — and their sons. If their sons are living in the basement playing video games (or as my grandson put it more pungently about his peers: vaping and masturbating, looking for the next dopamine-hit online) while their daughters have progressed successfully in the world, they worry about their sons. They worry about their sons — and many voted accordingly.

As I said, coming on the heels of the convo with my grandson (where frankly my political ideology conflicted with my ability to be receptive part of the time) I found myself really thinking about what Galloway was saying.

And that’s it: a brain-dump and not comprehensive notes taken in the moment.

[Hekate]

15. Post script

POSTSCRIPT: Galloway did indeed talk about the rank political corruption ( “A kleptocracy that would make Putin blush” ) and “an emerging transnational (alliance? not cabal) with their own schools, cops, laws, etc where wealth equals rights” nothing else, money equals rights. “We are run by a mob family, only Michael Corleone is running the grift and Fredo is running the government.” Another political observation from him: right now “there’s not that much difference between USA now and Germany in the 1920s and 1930s.”

“You and I” he said, indicating Nicolle and their relative privilege, “would be okay living in Mississippi if someone in our family got pregnant — we could just deal with it. Or if the government started rounding up Jews, I could just peace-out to Milan.”

Seriously, there was a lot to what the man said.

[hlthe2b]

33. Yes!! I care about suicide in males, AND females, the young, old, all races, & all ethnicities. ALL increasing!

Summary of suicide trends over the past two decades (roughly 2000-2020/2022), broken down by gender, age group, and race/ethnicity, based on the information found (compiled from CDC/ National Center for Health Statistics):

Overall Trends:

Increase Followed by Recent Plateau or Slight Decrease: The overall age-adjusted suicide rate increased significantly from 2000 to 2018, peaked, and then plateaued or slightly declined through 2020. However, recent data indicates a potential increase again.

Gender:

Males Consistently Higher Rates: Suicide rates for males are consistently three to four times higher than for females across most age groups and the period studied.
Males: Male suicide rates increased significantly from 2000/2002 to 2018. While there was a decline in 2019-2020, rates began to increase again through 2022.
Females: Female suicide rates increased notably from 2000/2002 to 2015/2018, then experienced a period of stability or slight decline, followed by a recent increase.

Age Groups:

Youth (10-24): Rates have generally increased for both males and females in this age group over the past two decades.
Middle-Aged (25-64): Suicide rates in the middle-age groups have varied over time. For example, rates for males aged 45-64 declined recently.
Older Adults (65+): Older adult male rates remain high, particularly for males 75 and older. Rates for older women have also increased in some age sub-groups.

Race/Ethnicity:

Non-Hispanic White Individuals: After an increase from 2000 to 2018, rates for this group declined through 2020, although rates remained higher than for other groups.
Non-Hispanic Black Individuals: Rates declined initially and then increased significantly from around 2007 to 2020.
Hispanic Individuals: Rates were initially stable and then increased from 2012 to 2020.
American Indian and Alaska Native (AI/AN) Individuals: This group consistently has the highest suicide rates overall, and experienced a substantial increase between 2018 and 2021.

[LisaM]

27. This is very interesting to me. I also agree that it's an issue.

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It reminds me of the early 60s and the different factions of young men, like the Mods and the Teddies, for example.

I would like an update on your conversation with your grandson. Whole I do have empathy for his plight, I would also guess that in reality he doesn't want to succeed at the expense of other groups. He probably (again a guess) wants to have a place at the table. I think it's futile to explain to someone who feels marginalized that it's fine because for centuries he would have had an advantage.

I think what we all want is for everyone to have the same advantage. Republicans have learned how to harness the anger. I would prefer to find a way to channel that energy into something positive.

[Hekate]

35. He lives a full life, with college, job, and a darling girlfriend he intends to marry...

He lives a full life, with college, job, and a darling girlfriend he intends to marry...

But his worldview differs markedly from ours, as do his experiences. He wasn’t even born when the Twin Towers fell. We have never experienced a school lockdown.

[LisaM]

36. No (we occasionally had bomb threats, hardly the same).

The past does shrink as we get older. 9/11 doesn't seem all that long ago. I do remember that there were some rashes of serial killers, though.

[Sympthsical]

16. He's right, and the party should listen

We have a problem, and it takes shape as a cultural one rather than a political one. We have become a party - and this is true of the Left in general - that has fostered an internal culture that appears overtly hostile to young men. Indifference is the best that can be managed on the very best of days. But in general, if any topic involving young males comes up, ideologues cannot manage it without melting down. And then it's just discussions of incels and toxic masculinity (two terms that are completely meaningless at this point and are simply used as shorthand for "man I dislike" ).

If anyone so much as whispers that there's a problem within our educational systems, the economy, and how we're culturally and socially restructuring over the past twenty years, it'll rapidly devolve into the harms felt by other populations.

Which are important harms! That need to be discussed, that need to be ameliorated. But the constant magician's trick of "Look over there at this other issue" whenever the problem with young men comes up isn't serving us. Not culturally, not politically.

And as far as the manosphere goes, yeah. That's what happens when you ignore a population and your loudest voices are constantly approaching them with insults and disdain. Who'd have foreseen that happening?

Everyone. It was everyone. Everyone not blinded by ideology saw it. Hell, I've been beating that horse as long as I've been here. To ignore the manosphere, to not attempt some rapprochement, to not wield some influence and reshape a message that is not shaped by tired identarian ideologies is to have more 2024 elections.

The thing about young men is, they become middle aged men, then old men. And to write them all off now, particularly when we see that this problem leeches into non-white male demographics as well, is to sign a political suicide pact.

And I'm not willing to commit political suicide because anachronistic ideologues are still grinding axes that haven't been honed since the mid-90s.

[Hekate]

19. Got it

[hlthe2b]

39. Oh, please... Don't listen to me if you want to deny his biases, exaggerations, misogyny. Listen to HIM:

https://www.instagram.com/professor_neil/reel/C9SpWJPOMY-/?hl=en

Here's a recent classic from Mr. Entitled Scott Galloway FOR women:

"A man has to swipe 200 times on a dating app to get one coffee?
(after) four or five coffees, will GHOST him?
You can't tell women to lower their expectations.
The reality."

... the horror, the horror...

[Sympthsical]

42. Exhibit A

That's all I'll say.

You're right there. Keep going. It's just one or two more hops.

[hlthe2b]

43. EXACTLY WHAT are you ACCUSING ME OF? If you have something to say, say it.

Otherwise, I think all here know what to think about your exchange and attitude toward me.

And, IF, by chance, you are defending blatant misogyny, it is YOU who has taken those hops.

[Sympthsical]

44. I accused you of nothing

And let's not bring in "all here". Ad populum is beneath both of us.

You've stated you think Galloway is bigoted in some way. Ok. How? What makes him a misogynist? He noted the online dating culture as it currently stands. What do you think of that issue? Do you see a solution to it? Do you see causes to it? If so, what are the causes?

He's a misogynist? That's a heady thing to call someone. If the accusation is worth making, isn't laying out the reasoning worthwhile as well?

How is he a misogynist? No links, no video, no one else's arguments. Make your own. No ad populum. Just two individuals having a conversation.

[hlthe2b]

45. Such BS. Read his books. Read his published interviews when he is not talking TED talk economics---which

most of us would agree with already. Disingenuous arguments mixed in with considerable segments of rational discourse and an easily missed toss-out of a RW social stereotype, misogynist or racist comment or two or repeated blame of Democrats for that which is largely the doing of Republicans, do not make him worthy of your worship. But, you be you.

[Sympthsical]

46. That's not an answer

No arguments supplied or routes for discussion to be had. A lot of labels and characterizations, but nothing to hang a conversational hook on.

So, Exhibit B then.

I'm happy with my initial reply and see it being born out in this exchange.

Which is fine. Have a spiffy Sunday evening.

[hlthe2b]

47. Why would anyone bother? It is clear you don't read the responses, or articles, or links, or anything

else posters have included on the thread (not merely me). So, I won't waste my time. He's got you bamboozled, that's for sure, and those like him who make sense 70 % of the time to cover the 30% in which they are more than willing to enable the RW, are damnable. If we don't develop a better BS-detector as a population, we are destined to Fascism for the indefinite future in this country.

As DUer, H2O MAN says downstream in this thread, his name translates as a variation of "mercenary." Apropos...

[Solly Mack]

23. I watched his interview with Wallace. I won't be singing "Kumbaya" with him.

[Ping Tung]

24. Theree is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success." Lordr Acton

Too many Democratic politicians win office by abandoning principles in favor of votes.

[tinrobot]

25. He's somewhat crass, but makes good points, particularly on business

He's a bit of a misogynist, as revealed by his constant dumb sex jokes.

But he's really good on business, I listen to his podcast a lot for financial opinions. He's also pretty good on politics, though he has a bit of a conservative take on some things.

His opinions on young men are sometimes hard to hear, but also mostly correct. We are failing young men these days.

[cbabe]

26. A bit of a misogynist. Is that like being a bit of a racist?

[YorkRd]

28. Galloway is a "Raging Moderate"

[Rather have him in our tent than outside it. I know many hate the message but it’s mostly true. Unless Dems find a way to reach more young white men, the party is doomed. link:

?si=7tUHE85if9vAsF-W|

[JustAnotherGen]

29. He's taking advantage of

Lower cognitive ability.

[Starbeach]

31. Violence

The threat of violence that men pose (yes not all) is what gets people worried when males become disaffected. And especially if they bond together through hate, misogyny etc. I think Galloway is motivated to reduce that threat.

[Pinback]

34. Anybody who's OK with Kara Swisher can't be all bad.

(She co-hosts the podcast “Pivot” with Galloway, as you may know.)

Galloway is obviously quite taken with himself, and I find him annoying at times, but in general what I’ve heard from him has been reasonable. I haven’t heard misogynistic comments from him; that would be a deal-breaker.

[hlthe2b]

40. I too like Kara and she is quite professional (she worked with Musk, after all).

but, don't listen to me, give HIM a listen:
https://www.instagram.com/professor_neil/reel/C9SpWJPOMY-/?hl=en

[H2O Man]

37. Recommended.

It is impossible, for reasons of extended family, for me to answer this objectively. I will say Scott is an intelligent man. The bunch of them are. What's frustrating is that he half-way "gets it," like almost all of the males. The women are the bright spot, being union leaders for many generations. Keep in mind that "Galloway" translates as a variation of "mercenary." And that's all I'll say.

[YorkRd]

41. Galloway is more liberal than given credit for

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15XJjdehYT/