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Quixote1818

(30,960 posts)
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:24 PM 21 hrs ago

Doesn't sound like much came of the talks between China and the US

Of course Trump is making it sound like an amazing reset deal is in the works. Listening to China, they sound like they need the US to move a shit load before much anything of substance can start happening:



Snip:

Writing in support of globalism, Xinhua added: “China will firmly reject any proposal that compromises core principles or undermines the broader cause of global equity.”


The listed authors of the article were Gao Wencheng and Fan Yu, but Xinhua is the official state news agency of China and it only carries Chinese Communist Party-approved messaging.

In Sunday’s commentary, Xinhua argued that the United States is hurting itself with its trade positions.

“For the United States itself,” Xinhua wrote, “its tariff offensive amounts to economic self-harm: while it cannot cure underlying structural problems, it has triggered financial market volatility, fueled domestic inflation, eroded industrial capacity and raised the risk of recession.”

In contrast, Xinhua contended, China is taking a different path.

“At a time when globalization is under strain and protectionism is on the rise, China has chosen not to lock itself up. Instead, it has doubled down on opening up, advancing trade and investment liberalization with renewed determination and creating opportunities for shared development across the globe,” Xinhua said. “China’s position is clear: no matter how the global landscape shifts, it will remain committed to openness.”

President Donald Trump on Saturday hailed “a total reset” of relations with China after talks in Switzerland involving Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, adding, “Great progress made.” The negotiations followed a deal that the Trump administration reached last week with the United Kingdom.

To settle this trade battle, the Chinese publication said the Trump administration must rethink how it views tariffs and trade.

“If Washington is truly committed to resolving trade frictions through dialogue, it must first confront the harm its tariff-driven policies have inflicted not only on the global trading system, but also on its own economy and citizens,” Xinhua said.

More: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/11/xinhua-china-trade-position-00340489?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Doesn't sound like much came of the talks between China and the US (Original Post) Quixote1818 21 hrs ago OP
They would be totin' their horns if it were a successful agreement Deuxcents 21 hrs ago #1
They probably did have a successful agreement Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #11
China positioning itself as the stable, sensible global leader. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #2
Now that is weird. ananda 21 hrs ago #9
China and Russia plan to be the 21st century superpowers. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #10
And it was a war of intelligence that the USA couldn't fight properly. ananda 17 hrs ago #18
And half the country aided and abetted our enemies. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #19
True. And the other half were way too nice. ananda 16 hrs ago #21
Time to understand we are fighting a war. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #22
We need China more than they need us. yourout 21 hrs ago #3
Can't believe anything from trump or his minions Beachnutt 21 hrs ago #4
Likely market manipulation newdeal2 21 hrs ago #5
Exactly nt Tribetime 17 hrs ago #20
He Has to Back Down DET 21 hrs ago #6
Quite a turn of events, when China is the sensible voice defending the interests of U.S. citizens . . . Journeyman 21 hrs ago #7
China says they've "reached an agreement" to talk more. LetMyPeopleVote 21 hrs ago #8
Thanks for the image so I could see. Yes, a "trade consultation mechanism" is not a "trade deal". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 21 hrs ago #12
China and Russia have been around before recorded history and they've seen the likes of TSF many times Deuxcents 20 hrs ago #13
I guess "progress" is getting help from China in ... Tarzanrock 20 hrs ago #14
Krasnov knows he needs to end this before it destroys him and his Maga party. GoodRaisin 19 hrs ago #15
The Dow is up 500 points flamingdem 19 hrs ago #16
1) your main drift is right, 2) It's not Dow, it's Dow futures, 3) Dow is price-weighted bogosity Bernardo de La Paz 19 hrs ago #17

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,458 posts)
11. They probably did have a successful agreement
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:10 PM
21 hrs ago

... to meet again in six months.

... to not call each other running dog capitalists or yellow-bellied sapsuckers.

Irish_Dem

(69,473 posts)
10. China and Russia plan to be the 21st century superpowers.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:08 PM
21 hrs ago

And needed the US to fall from power to do so.

The plans are going nicely.

ananda

(31,682 posts)
18. And it was a war of intelligence that the USA couldn't fight properly.
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:57 PM
17 hrs ago

We were actually our own worst enemies in this regard.

Irish_Dem

(69,473 posts)
19. And half the country aided and abetted our enemies.
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:59 PM
17 hrs ago

They handed the US to Russia and China.

ananda

(31,682 posts)
21. True. And the other half were way too nice.
Sun May 11, 2025, 09:29 PM
16 hrs ago

I've been wanting Dems to fight back since
Bush v. Gore!

DET

(1,997 posts)
6. He Has to Back Down
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:44 PM
21 hrs ago

I always get the feeling that China views Trump as a particularly stupid, difficult child and talks to him accordingly. They could really hurt us if they wanted to.

Journeyman

(15,324 posts)
7. Quite a turn of events, when China is the sensible voice defending the interests of U.S. citizens . . .
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:45 PM
21 hrs ago
“If Washington is truly committed to resolving trade frictions through dialogue, it must first confront the harm its tariff-driven policies have inflicted not only on the global trading system, but also on its own economy and citizens,” Xinhua said.

emphasis added

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,458 posts)
12. Thanks for the image so I could see. Yes, a "trade consultation mechanism" is not a "trade deal". . . nt
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:13 PM
21 hrs ago

Deuxcents

(22,121 posts)
13. China and Russia have been around before recorded history and they've seen the likes of TSF many times
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:18 PM
20 hrs ago

They know quite well how to handle a new wanna be tyrant

Tarzanrock

(829 posts)
14. I guess "progress" is getting help from China in ...
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:33 PM
20 hrs ago

cleaning up the colossal economic mess which the Turd, alone, created.

GoodRaisin

(10,157 posts)
15. Krasnov knows he needs to end this before it destroys him and his Maga party.
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:35 PM
19 hrs ago

Xi isn’t going to give him anything. Krasnov must quietly give in, after which he will announce he made a great deal, and it will all be a lie.

It will be same way with all the countries, like the UK deal, which is a nothing berder. It is not about making deals at all. It’s about announcing deals. And lying, of course.

Krasnov did exactly the same thing in his first term when he tried to use Zelenskyy to make up lies about Biden. He didn’t ask for an actual investigation. He just wanted Zelenskyy to announce investigations into Biden.

It’s always all about the annoucement with Krasnov. Announcements and photo ops to paint a false picture. Then pushing it all out with his “news” channel.

flamingdem

(40,406 posts)
16. The Dow is up 500 points
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:39 PM
19 hrs ago

My guess is that someone will blab tomorrow so the insiders can make money on the drop.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,458 posts)
17. 1) your main drift is right, 2) It's not Dow, it's Dow futures, 3) Dow is price-weighted bogosity
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:45 PM
19 hrs ago

Your main drift is right. S&P 500 futures opened up more than 1 % but have eased a bit lower in the 35 minutes plus since.

The Chinese stated that a joint statement will be released tomorrow. A lack of substance there may induce a drop.

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