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applegrove

(125,937 posts)
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:07 PM 21 hrs ago

Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them

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The Quiet Uprising:

Why do we keep blaming other countries for “stealing” our jobs…
when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them overseas for a quick buck?

They didn’t get stolen — they got outsourced.
Not by China. Not by Mexico.
By CEOs who chose profit over people.
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Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them (Original Post) applegrove 21 hrs ago OP
All paths lead back to American greed. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #1
Correction, if I may.. whathehell 21 hrs ago #2
Wasn't it Ross Perot DENVERPOPS 1 hr ago #36
Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1. Silent Type 20 hrs ago #3
Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership IronLionZion 18 hrs ago #25
You are absolutely right angryxyouth 18 hrs ago #27
Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years, Silent Type 17 hrs ago #30
I've been saying this for years. LoisB 20 hrs ago #4
re: greed TnDem 20 hrs ago #5
Yes DENVERPOPS 1 hr ago #37
Mitt Romney did this too. Squaredeal 20 hrs ago #6
yes. It has been this way... always.. Srkdqltr 20 hrs ago #7
"If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India." dalton99a 20 hrs ago #8
Has the Trump family brought their product manufacturing back to America? Norrrm 19 hrs ago #9
Every accusation is a confession. usonian 19 hrs ago #10
"We Can't Make It Here Anymore" - James McGurty Shipwack 19 hrs ago #11
Great song! Thanks for posting. raccoon 18 hrs ago #28
By the Ceo's in league with the Govt ToxMarz 19 hrs ago #12
The simplest DENVERPOPS 1 hr ago #38
A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch maspaha 19 hrs ago #13
Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor. Hassin Bin Sober 18 hrs ago #18
Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter Warpy 19 hrs ago #14
Also to escape the environmental markodochartaigh 19 hrs ago #17
Damn straight! They made millions selling out US companies Evolve Dammit 19 hrs ago #15
It was repukes! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #16
American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades... CaptainTruth 18 hrs ago #19
Focusing on the price of everything,while denying the value of that which is priceless. BattleRow 18 hrs ago #20
But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism maspaha 18 hrs ago #21
And keeps moving the goal post. BattleRow 18 hrs ago #22
In my younger years DENVERPOPS 1 hr ago #39
Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up LiberalArkie 18 hrs ago #23
Just like the greed in riverbendviewgal 18 hrs ago #24
They LIE! Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #26
Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points? WSHazel 17 hrs ago #29
+1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First Silent Type 17 hrs ago #31
This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice Ruby the Liberal 5 hrs ago #32
Great question ck4829 2 hrs ago #33
Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good Johonny 2 hrs ago #34
Because they took er jerbs! LudwigPastorius 1 hr ago #35
You got it! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 56 min ago #40

DENVERPOPS

(12,089 posts)
36. Wasn't it Ross Perot
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:28 PM
1 hr ago

who predicted a "Giant Sucking Sound" so many years ago..........Perfectly logical given what we were watching.....
And nobody listened......

Silent Type

(9,246 posts)
3. Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:18 PM
20 hrs ago

IronLionZion

(48,761 posts)
25. Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:00 PM
18 hrs ago

there was blatant disinformation shared frequently right here on DU.

TPP was meant to counter China's influence by organizing with the smaller countries in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Silent Type

(9,246 posts)
30. Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years,
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:23 PM
17 hrs ago

when laws required the final document to be released and approved by Congress.

Doubt I’ll ever get over that, not to mention mention what 8 years of trump will do to country.

Hope we don’t similarly screw ourselves in midterms.

TnDem

(773 posts)
5. re: greed
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:28 PM
20 hrs ago

The problem is that there has to be legislation in place such as NAFTA and GATT that allows greed to be fertilized into a massive beanstalk in the first place.

Both parties are to fault allowing this, which is sad on our part.

Squaredeal

(648 posts)
6. Mitt Romney did this too.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:46 PM
20 hrs ago

Bought Staples, then got China to make cheap products for them, causing their American manufacturers to shut down.

dalton99a

(88,536 posts)
8. "If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India."
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:00 PM
20 hrs ago

"If an Indian can answer the phone in English, we'll move technical support/customer service to India."



usonian

(17,536 posts)
10. Every accusation is a confession.
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:32 PM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Sun May 11, 2025, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

It’s always someone else’s fault.

ToxMarz

(2,385 posts)
12. By the Ceo's in league with the Govt
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:37 PM
19 hrs ago

mostly republicans on this front. The legislature and executive branch need to make the rules of the game conducive to this happening for the businesses to take advantage of it.

DENVERPOPS

(12,089 posts)
38. The simplest
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
1 hr ago

definition of Fascism is the merger of Government and Corporations......

It is becoming more obvious every day that Corporations and Putin are the ones truly running the Republican Party and Trump

maspaha

(468 posts)
13. A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:47 PM
19 hrs ago

…can’t stand the ba$+@ rd…
…just sayin’

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,057 posts)
18. Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor.
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:17 PM
18 hrs ago

All while the cashed billions in government contracts and subsidies.

Warpy

(113,352 posts)
14. Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:50 PM
19 hrs ago

so instead of upgrading equipment and facilities here, they just built shiny new ones offshore. Instead of continuing to pay the most productive workforce on the planet, they paid a lot less for a less productive workforce plush shipping costs on top ot it, mostly because they hated unions, even if their businesses had never had to deal with a union.

Republicans are the ones pushing the "they stole our jobs" narrative because whipping up hate of the "other" suits their purposes, they talk about punishing other countries with tariffs when it's the US population who will have to shoulder the cost of them.

It's a jorse shit narrative, but we knew that. The problem is that so many hateful Republicans are buying it.

markodochartaigh

(2,822 posts)
17. Also to escape the environmental
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
19 hrs ago

and labor regulations in the US that are meant to keep people and our environment safe.

CaptainTruth

(7,601 posts)
19. American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades...
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:26 PM
18 hrs ago

...due to outsourcing.

It's odd that no one ever seems to talk about that.

Insatiable consumer desire for "cheap stuff" will always drive the quest for less expensive manufacturing & create opportunities for businesses (& business owners) who want to capitalize on that desire.

maspaha

(468 posts)
21. But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:35 PM
18 hrs ago

…and capitalism has unfairly redrawn the playing field

DENVERPOPS

(12,089 posts)
39. In my younger years
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
1 hr ago

Corporations used to be in a race to the top, trying to make the best......now they have been in a race to the bottom..(as in Bottom Line Profitability)

LiberalArkie

(18,154 posts)
23. Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:46 PM
18 hrs ago

Made in Korea. Oops Koreas wages went up
Made in Taiwan. Oops Taiwans wages went up
Made in China. Oops Chinas wages went up
Made in India, Bangladesh, Viet Nam.

WSHazel

(388 posts)
29. Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points?
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:19 PM
17 hrs ago

Free trade:

1) Creates more American jobs than it loses,
2) Keeps domestic prices low,
3) Makes the world a much more peaceful place. This is the most important.

Free trade DOESN'T:

1) Result in a net loss of American jobs.

Tightly restricted trade is a critical tool for any dictator.

By claiming free trade is bad, we are validating Trump's talking point.

Silent Type

(9,246 posts)
31. +1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:58 PM
17 hrs ago

on steroids. This is one big world and we are a small part of it.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,432 posts)
32. This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:50 AM
5 hrs ago

No one has ever been able to point to a sustained economy under that governing model - at any point in world history - because it isn't functional. Its all about greed and 'whoever dies with the most toys wins'.

And thats why Vance scares me more than Trump. Trump is a man child stomping his feet and demanding fealty as he spends $10s of millions of taxpayer money a month playing golf while blathering about dolls and pencils.

Vance is in the pocket of Peter Thiel and the like who won't be happy until they hoover up the Treasury into their own crypto accounts.

Trump is erratic. That crew is dangerous.

Johonny

(23,554 posts)
34. Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:36 AM
2 hrs ago

So the whole talking point is stupid.

The problem isn't jobs, it is good paying jobs. More to the point, it is the class warfare as the rich keep wages low and gain most of the benefits from labor. People are working, but the benefits of that labor are becoming more and more concentrated in the few. This is a huge problem, the major problem.

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