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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsmoron surrenders to china in trade war
hes dropping his 125% tariff on china to 10% and in return china is dropping their reciprical tariff to the same.
so all he did was raise the cost of chinese imports 10%

Javaman
(63,792 posts)but maybe that was the mission. forced inflation to help his corporate buddies
LiberalArkie
(18,153 posts)JT45242
(3,297 posts)MTG plus a bunch of cabinet flunkies and donors will make a lot of money using various pump/dump and short sells every time mango Mussolini opens his mouth on tariffs
Susan Calvin
(2,269 posts)Maru Kitteh
(30,157 posts)and people would be okay with paying $35 for a pack of toilet paper and the kids having two Barbies and five pencils while he took delivery of a massive jetliner dripping with gold.
He really believed it.
Auggie
(32,278 posts)Maru Kitteh
(30,157 posts)know exactly what theyre doing and those people make sure to keep him fluffed up at all times with plenty of grift so they can get what they want, too.
Hes just not very smart.
Dave Bowman
(5,114 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,967 posts)Omnipresent
(6,874 posts)It just takes a few talking heads to say hes made a bad deal. Then were back to square one again.
Irish_Dem
(69,473 posts)Renew Deal
(83,893 posts)These guys often misdirect and love to use known vulnerabilities for some other purpose.
Trump lost the trade war and got nothing except a 10% tax hike on everyone.
democratsruletheday
(1,298 posts)hate his ignorant guts
littlemissmartypants
(27,592 posts)Business on a 90-day timeline isn't good business.
Expand the grift, bake in uncertainty, stress out the attentive & bamboozle the stupid.
The 'price mark-up before the discount' trick with more market manipulation, only this time, Chinese investors can cash in, too.
Crimes in waves.
❤️RESIST!! ✊️
mwmisses4289
(1,038 posts)finally got it through its stupid skull that no shipments and high tariffs on China meant none of their pos stuff that is made in China would be coming here? It is all about making money any way it can, by whatever means it can.
gab13by13
(28,025 posts)for going back to the way it was before he fucked it up and many people will cheer him as a great businessman.
China's exports to the US are 3 times greater than what the US exports to China.
Cutting back to 10% tariffs was a huge caving in on Krasnov's part. The only people who benefitted were the people who played the stock market. All of this was self-imposed by Krasnov.
oldmanlynn
(653 posts)I guess we wont find out about that for many years to come, but I am sure that hes profiting from these negotiations in some fashion
Ol Janx Spirit
(182 posts)30% is still a really high tariff and will have an enormous impact on prices here. Not as much as 145% of course which sparked fears of empty shelves, but a 30% tariff still makes any import from China still cost almost a third more. That will be noticeable on the shelves, and there will still be products that do not come to our shores because of the burden on manufacturers.
The thing this signals loud and clear however is: don't bother planning to build a factory and make your products more expensively in the U.S. to avoid future tariffs. By the time you do get it up and running you will be vastly undercut by foreign competitors that now face no or very low tariffs because either this Administration or the next dropped them.
This current move makes it much harder to actually figure out the goal and the strategy here. But maybe that is giving them too much credit.
Sun-Moon
(173 posts)The way I understand this new agreement is the original tariffs from first Trump administration is still in effect. So it will be
Original duty + 7.5-25% first term increase + 20% fentanyl increase + 10% reciprocal tariff(90 days pause). So you could see over a 50% tariff on some goods.
This is still very high for small businesses.
Ol Janx Spirit
(182 posts)stories of companies paying over 180% tariffs because of this--so the 30% is quite misleading. China also implemented export controls on some products and rare earth metals, so that could always factor into the equation. None of this is good news for the American consumer or businesses--it is only less bad than it was last week. And good luck planning if you are a business of any kind....
DetlefK
(16,658 posts)surfered
(6,618 posts)Rebl2
(16,279 posts)Kid Berwyn
(20,309 posts)
"A little tough love."
Johonny
(23,554 posts)In shipping. And anyone that can wait longer will, because the tariffs keeps getting smaller. Why buy now when it probably will get cheaper later
Wounded Bear
(61,914 posts)
Ray Bruns
(5,190 posts)From 125% to 10%.
So actually a 30% increase.
chouchou
(1,856 posts)
swong19104
(410 posts)Due to the prior high tariff rate, no cargo came into US ports. So port workers are laid off. And truckers. And others all along the supply chain. Some of those have found other jobs. Some moved away. And others who may return to work wont actually work for another two months because cargo ships dont just magically appear at port, fully laden with a new shipment.
IronLionZion
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Ol Janx Spirit
(182 posts)coming to him with tears in their eyes saying thank you.....
BoRaGard
(5,322 posts)flipping draft dodging liar
Littlered
(246 posts)I dont know how much you know about them. But tariffs are only part of the overall equation. Via previous trade deals, we have been shut out entirely from out a lot of markets. Until the final details are released, we arent going to truly know one way or the other how its gonna work out. This is one of the reasons he has hit so many of our trading partners with these astronomical tariffs. Taken at their face value many of them look good on the surface but when you pull back the layers you see we are getting screwed. With that being said. Ill never underestimate his ability to fubar. He has a talent in that way.
Rebl2
(16,279 posts)this for 90 days. We will see.
Efilroft Sul
(3,999 posts)Of course, the markets would react exuberantly.
William Seger
(11,599 posts)A lot of people are trying to jump back in before the expected surge peaks.
Warpy
(113,352 posts)Chinese business negotiations have been described as "brutal" and "utterly ruthless" by people I know who have taken part in them. I would expect the Chinese to roll right over these amateurs.
King Dimwit will, of course, preen, strut, and boast of the great deals he made.
Doodley
(10,864 posts)usonian
(17,536 posts)

Trump got a cargo ship full of Kung Pao Poopy Paper!
