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Aviation Pro

(14,287 posts)
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:38 AM 5 hrs ago

Let's get one thing straight about Motherfucker Krasnov's alleged win on tariffs with China

It's a reduction from 145% to 30% on nearly all goods imported from China, which means it's a 30% sales tax on all of those goods when the end user consumers buy them. So, in the simplest terms, your product that was $100 now costs $130.

And where do you think the money collected at the point of transfer goes?

Why, bless their fucking hearts, the billionaire tax cuts.

Anyone else here connecting the fucking dots?

Fuck you, Krasnov.

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Let's get one thing straight about Motherfucker Krasnov's alleged win on tariffs with China (Original Post) Aviation Pro 5 hrs ago OP
And also, the "win" is that he imposed the tariffs, and then he reduced the tariffs. Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #1
And I don't think the "win" will be what he PatSeg 4 hrs ago #7
Yes, except for the certainty of his instability. n/t Harker 3 hrs ago #13
Yes, that's something you can bet money on PatSeg 2 hrs ago #18
That is the Orange Prick's M.O. - Lokee11 3 hrs ago #14
Market manipulation. moondust 37 min ago #21
The blinking idiot... Blinked. Hugin 5 hrs ago #2
He only wants the headlines to say he made a deal. forgotmylogin 23 min ago #22
Pellucidly clear malaise 5 hrs ago #3
Doubtful to me this is the end point, VonSchitzInPants will take offense at something NoMoreRepugs 5 hrs ago #4
and of course the MSM is making this sound that this is a f**king victory for us. It is such bullshit, but JohnSJ 4 hrs ago #5
If you expected anything different you haven't been paying attention... Wounded Bear 4 hrs ago #6
I Think Many People OhioTim 3 hrs ago #8
One quibble Old Crank 3 hrs ago #9
And in the meantime the importer had to lay off 10% of its workforce to Ol Janx Spirit 2 hrs ago #15
"the sales price would be $115" krkaufman 1 hr ago #19
The Sorcerer's Apprentice strikes again. BurnDoubt 3 hrs ago #10
I for one think the G.O.P. tax cuts for the rich BoRaGard 3 hrs ago #11
What a UUUUUUGE win! usonian 3 hrs ago #12
The fireman who starts the fires.... spanone 2 hrs ago #16
I thought the basis for Krasnov's imposing enormous tariffs rested in his declaration of Ford_Prefect 2 hrs ago #17
The United States will NEVER quakerboy 42 min ago #20
Taking credit for reducing a problem you created is BS Nigrum Cattus 15 min ago #23

Scrivener7

(55,657 posts)
1. And also, the "win" is that he imposed the tariffs, and then he reduced the tariffs.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:43 AM
5 hrs ago

He created the problem and then partially mitigated it.

Without him, the problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

PatSeg

(50,161 posts)
7. And I don't think the "win" will be what he
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:01 AM
4 hrs ago

thinks it will be. His constant unpredictability is putting everyone on edge and in the end, everyone will still be paying much higher prices for almost everything. People need periods of stability and certainty, they'll never achieve that with Trump in the White House.

Lokee11

(344 posts)
14. That is the Orange Prick's M.O. -
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:12 AM
3 hrs ago

Though I agree with many here that it is not a win -

This is his M.O. - start a fire and then take credit for putting it out

He is a fucking DOLT!

✊FDT!

moondust

(20,858 posts)
21. Market manipulation.
Mon May 12, 2025, 01:36 PM
37 min ago

One corrupt asshole should not have the ability to manipulate the market like this all by himself.

Hugin

(36,101 posts)
2. The blinking idiot... Blinked.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:51 AM
5 hrs ago

At a 10% loss and huge expensive ripples and loss of good will in the global economy that are going to take many cycles to stabilize, if they ever do.

Aaaand… It could all change on a dime the next time that f**ker purses his porcine pie hole.

forgotmylogin

(7,842 posts)
22. He only wants the headlines to say he made a deal.
Mon May 12, 2025, 01:49 PM
23 min ago

I sincerely doubt China did anything except continue not shipping anything to our ports and Donnie calls hitting the snooze button "a deal". The deal basically was kicking the can down the road.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,303 posts)
4. Doubtful to me this is the end point, VonSchitzInPants will take offense at something
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:59 AM
5 hrs ago

at some point and the cycle will repeat.

JohnSJ

(98,536 posts)
5. and of course the MSM is making this sound that this is a f**king victory for us. It is such bullshit, but
Mon May 12, 2025, 09:16 AM
4 hrs ago

so obviously the media are carrying the water for this imbecile, and thinking the dumb ass American public will buy it, which they probably will.

It is the biggest con job, boon doogle right before everyone's eyes, and far too many idiots are buying it.

"The US and China will temporarily lower tariffs on each other's products, with the US reducing its levies from 145% to 30% and China dropping its duties from 125% to 10%.

Per Bloomberg.

What the OP said is absolutely correct, and it isn't permanent, just 90-days.


Wounded Bear

(61,914 posts)
6. If you expected anything different you haven't been paying attention...
Mon May 12, 2025, 09:58 AM
4 hrs ago

Worst fucking president ever.

OhioTim

(339 posts)
8. I Think Many People
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:18 AM
3 hrs ago

will think of this as a win. Probably get back the last US hostage in Gaza today. Decent chance of a Russia-Ukraine agreement in the next 60 days and some type of agreement in Gaza. These look good on paper, but don't pass the smell test. If his approval rating goes up, I believe phase 2 will be more repression of US citizens.

Old Crank

(5,662 posts)
9. One quibble
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:40 AM
3 hrs ago

It isn't a 100% tariff on list or sales price. It is on the imported cost. So if that item sell for $100 but the importer paid 50 the sales price would be $115.

Still a screw job for us. And more than we would have paid before.

Ol Janx Spirit

(181 posts)
15. And in the meantime the importer had to lay off 10% of its workforce to
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:23 AM
2 hrs ago

make up for the loss in profit that was compounded by the fact that even a slight rise in price will make many consumers reconsider their purchase. Also, somewhere out there an independent truck driver lost a good chunk of income from reduced cargo. That led to a diesel supplier losing sales and potentially laying off more people.

Disruptions in any area of a supply chain tend to have ripple effects that impact everyone whether we know it or not. Many many businesses will wonder why their sales went down even though they weren't impacted by tariffs and never raised prices....

krkaufman

(13,857 posts)
19. "the sales price would be $115"
Mon May 12, 2025, 01:06 PM
1 hr ago

… if the importer is passing along the 30% tariff tax to the retail consumer. Of course, the sales price can be whatever the seller deems the market will bear, and if they feel that they can get away with bumping the price by more than just the tariff rate you can bet they’ll do so. (See the cost of laundry drying machines when tariffs were imposed on washers.)

usonian

(17,536 posts)
12. What a UUUUUUGE win!
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:57 AM
3 hrs ago




Trump got a cargo ship full of 🌶️ Kung Pao 🌶️ Poopy Paper!

Ford_Prefect

(8,367 posts)
17. I thought the basis for Krasnov's imposing enormous tariffs rested in his declaration of
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:28 AM
2 hrs ago

A national emergecy. Aren't there several legal challenges to this document filed which state that DJT's use of the tariffs exceeds his authority, much as many of his "orders" do?

IMO this us another gaslighting event because we don't deserve the truth according to Miller. Navaro, and Vance. Well hear the real costs next week at the grocery store, the dealerships, and the bank.

quakerboy

(14,349 posts)
20. The United States will NEVER
Mon May 12, 2025, 01:31 PM
42 min ago

again in my lifetime be as strong as it was the day before trump took office the second time.

Even if he wins a few battles here and there, he has lost the war. And even if the country manages to remove him from office and replaces him with someone excellent who also has really good luck in world affairs, the damage he has done to this nation will take generations to repair.

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