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In a letter sent to members of the church, the Most Rev. Sean W. Rowe the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church said that two weeks ago the government informed Episcopal Migration Ministries that under the terms of our federal grant, we are expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees.
The request, Rowe said, crossed a moral line for the Episcopal Church, which is part of the global Anglican Communion that boasts among its leaders the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a celebrated and vocal opponent of apartheid in South Africa.
In light of our churchs steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step, Rowe wrote. Accordingly, we have determined that, by the end of the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.
Rowe stressed that while Episcopal Migration Ministries will seek to wind down all federally funded services by the end of the federal fiscal year in September, the denomination will continue to support immigrants and refugees in other ways, such as offering aid to refugees who have already been resettled.
https://religionnews.com/2025/05/12/episcopal-church-ends-refugee-resettlement-citing-moral-opposition-to-resettling-white-afrikaners/

underpants
(190,542 posts)spanone
(138,970 posts)wryter2000
(47,820 posts)
LiberalArkie
(18,161 posts)ShazzieB
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I have been attending services at an Episcopal Church for a while now, and am looking into becoming a member. News like this makes me feel really good about my choice!
wryter2000
(47,820 posts)We need more rational people of all faiths
A HERETIC I AM
(24,772 posts)Baptized and confirmed (in the National Cathedral in DC, no less!) and attended those churches on 3 continents.
The late Bishop John Shelby Spong was a great voice of reason in the Episcopal Church.
I'm Atheist now, but I have some fond memories from my days in the church.
wryter2000
(47,820 posts)Loved Bishop Spong and read.some of his books.
Celerity
(49,771 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,772 posts)I saved that one for later on my YouTube channel. I created a file called long form specifically for videos like that. Thank you very very much. I really do appreciate it.
He was an amazing man and a true voice of reason.
He was one of the few guests that Bill Maher had on as an exclusive guest for a whole hour on his show.
I remember one question that Maher asked him that went something like what do you think of the predictions of the rapture and all that
Spong said Not much! If you took away Revelations and the book of Daniel, the tent preachers would have nothing to go on about!
I nearly fell off my chair when he said that!
Celerity
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obamanut2012
(28,455 posts)maspaha
(474 posts)obamanut2012
(28,455 posts)sheshe2
(91,933 posts)Raven
(14,259 posts)of this Church step up and fill the gap.
Nevilledog
(54,298 posts)wcmagumba
(3,883 posts)I'm more of an agnostic than a devout believer but I did like some things about the church and its services...
LiberalArkie
(18,161 posts)EYESORE 9001
(28,223 posts)if you have arthritic knees 😫
ShazzieB
(20,575 posts)Sometimes I can kneel just fine; other times my knees object.
AllaN01Bear
(25,053 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(11,887 posts)(Virgnina was, until recently, notoriously "low church".)
LiberalArkie
(18,161 posts)obamanut2012
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They are there for you however you need them to be. Just don't say the Nicene Creed if you don't believe it and it makes yo uncomfortable to say.
Just make sure it is an actual Episcopal Church and not ACNA. They are an anti LGBT anti women clergy offshoot that are pretty bad.
ShazzieB
(20,575 posts)I've reached out to the rector of the church I've been attending about joining, and will be meeting with him soon. I love going to church there and want to make it official, but I'm not really comfortable saying I believe every single word of the Nicene creed literally.
The church is definitely TEC, not ACNA, btw!
obamanut2012
(28,455 posts)wryter2000
(47,820 posts)Definitely to be avoided
wryter2000
(47,820 posts)My church welcomes nonbelievers. You have to respect the faith of the other people around you, but you don't have to subscribe to everything that's said.
orangecrush
(24,578 posts)Mountain Mule
(1,138 posts)This makes me feel very proud of our church. As if the Tr**p regime actually cared about genuine refugees. Oh, please.
CapnSteve
(296 posts)Proud of my church. Activist from its inception!
LovelyStuff
(29 posts)LiberalArkie
(18,161 posts)Episcopal Diocese of DC. She is Episcopal..They do not shy away from controversy. Or very seldom do.
ananda
(31,691 posts)But I expect there are some Magat churches
that would cater to white racists.
Ocelot II
(124,666 posts)The Episcopal cathedral I used to attend is pretty woke.
Hekate
(97,548 posts)Torchlight
(4,605 posts)Well okay, not so much losing their religion as consciously denying its tenets, in other words, apostasy. But I'm fully confident they'll blame anyone and everyone except themselves.
tanyev
(46,325 posts)Lulu KC
(8,102 posts)Good job.
Martin68
(25,712 posts)malaise
(283,916 posts)Rec
oasis
(52,275 posts)
Jilly_in_VA
(11,887 posts)Yes, I'm Orthodox now, but a part of my heart is still there as I grew up in that church and my kids were baptized and grew up in it also. I'd probably still be a member if the church here wasn't such a bunch of Frozen Chosen.
Norrrm
(1,460 posts)obamanut2012
(28,455 posts)TEC are encouraged to be part of the community, and have been a leader in helping immigrants, refugees, LGBT+, the unhoused, teh environment, etc. Not every Episcopal Church is as active as ours, I'm sure, but we constantly ahve something going on that includes both the community outside teh church walls.
We are also part of a group that includes other local TEC, Lutheran ELCA, and Methodists that help one another with this.
I am in Sacramento.
lonely bird
(2,293 posts)Change?
My Grandmother donated that ( fill in the blank).
All seriousness aside we go the the Episcopal church. My wife directs the choir. I was voluntold that I was in the choir 😉😁. My wife was raised Roman Catholic. Long story about why she left but she feels the Episcopal church is home.
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Paladin
(30,326 posts)BumRushDaShow
(152,167 posts)Just got my latest set of Pledge envelopes in the mail today too.
People might recall the spat that the Rt. Rev. Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde has had with 45.
customerserviceguy
(25,208 posts)and some fundy church will step up.
tornado34jh
(1,473 posts)I think what is going on here proves he was right. It is all about white supremacism.
JBTaurus83
(356 posts)eom
xuplate
(90 posts)Warpy
(113,356 posts)no matter how horrendous the situation is in their home country.
This is Elon Musk putting "his" people at the head of the line, against refugees fleeing violence and certain murder if they go back.
I can't deny that the Afrikaaners who ended up on the wrong side of a lot of necessary reforms in South Africa are living in terrible conditions--in squats, in makeshift shacks in parks, about what you'd see in any big US city. The difference between their poverty and poverty in Haiti or El Salvador is a relative lack of organized murder.
Musk could well afford to build housing in South Africa for "his" people and to provide the kind of seed money it takes to start small buisinesses to support them. He won't. Men like him don't share, no even with "their" people.
So good for the Episcopalians, just another reason to feel good about all the Catholic believers disgusted by Rome that I've sent to them over the years.
Rebl2
(16,283 posts)should agree to help them. Trump brought them here. Let him or governor desatan move in with them.
RainCaster
(12,809 posts)Too many are afraid to say anything for fear of offending someone.