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Disaffected

(6,235 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:23 PM Thursday

If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls

"If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls

Charlie Angus / The Resistance
Jan 29, 2026

"Finally. Someone in the public has spoken the word ‘treason’.

How else to describe the manipulations of the Quislings who have been meeting with Trump officials to break Alberta from Canada?

For the last year, I have been calling out the “Donbas Playbook” being used by the MAGA machine. I have raised questions about the massive slush fund of American money being put on the table to drive the break up our nation. And I have been calling out the manipulations of MAGA Premier Danielle Smith.

The stakes are getting higher."

https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/if-alberta-falls-canada-falls

Any vibes from the US sources on this? Angry but not surprised.....

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If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls (Original Post) Disaffected Thursday OP
No................ Lovie777 Thursday #1
This does indeed look like a page out of the Putin playbook as seen in Donbas and Brexit EarlG Thursday #2
Agreed. Disaffected Thursday #11
I understand Belarus is lovely this time of year. COL Mustard Thursday #25
Yes. And the premier Danielle Smith has been bankrupting the public health care, applegrove Thursday #14
In any case the referendum is nonbinding Fiendish Thingy Thursday #17
Damn, if only Danielle was 40 years younger... OGBuzz Thursday #21
Well, it's amazing what they can do with a bit of surgery these days. WestMichRad Thursday #28
Thank you.......... Lovie777 Thursday #3
We are NOT taking Nickelback leftstreet Thursday #4
... Disaffected Thursday #12
.... Spazito Thursday #19
Oh yes you are! Ray Bruns Thursday #23
Yeah, we're setting such a good example of governance down here. CanonRay Thursday #5
When I lived in Victoria, BC Metaphorical Thursday #6
They have always been here, the separatists, I think they just have gotten louder because Bev54 Thursday #16
K&R UTUSN Thursday #7
Putin wants all democratic countries to shatter and break apart. Irish_Dem Thursday #8
It's how I feel about the bumpkins arguing for TX secession. Torchlight Thursday #9
Carney isn't playing... Bread and Circuses Thursday #10
King Charles doesnt want Canada under trump (from 2025... ) IcyPeas Thursday #13
Not gonna happen Fiendish Thingy Thursday #15
I believe it would also require a change to Disaffected Thursday #29
I'll offer a trade: the U.S. takes Alberta, and Canada takes Michigan. Please. JustABozoOnThisBus Thursday #18
US can have Alberta if Canada takes the US 😂 debsy Thursday #22
I would offer Minnesota, but LakeVermilion Thursday #26
I sure hope so!!! calimary Thursday #27
And New York! n/t returnee 12 hrs ago #31
Alberta is not going to fall... Spazito Thursday #20
Frankly, Alberta needs to be governed and governed hard. Seeking Serenity Thursday #24
First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta littlemissmartypants Thursday #30

EarlG

(23,463 posts)
2. This does indeed look like a page out of the Putin playbook as seen in Donbas and Brexit
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:28 PM
Thursday

For what it's worth, a poll taken earlier this month shows 19% of Albertans support separating from Canada, 75% oppose it. I wouldn't be surprised if that oppose number doesn't go a little higher once Albertans see separatist leaders canoodling with the fascist Trump regime.

Disaffected

(6,235 posts)
11. Agreed.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:58 PM
Thursday

And yes, support for separation, even in "Red-neck Alberta" is thankfully pretty minimal.

The gathering of signatures for a separation referendum however is now underway and I hope they show up at my door so I can spit in their faces or at least ask them WTF is wrong with you.

Approx. 177,000 signatures would be required (10% of votes cast in the last provincial election). In a way, I hope they reach that threshold so Albertans can tell them to PO and they will slink away or maybe move to more right-wing environs in another country.

COL Mustard

(8,050 posts)
25. I understand Belarus is lovely this time of year.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 06:36 PM
Thursday

They could try there. Maybe they would be happier.

applegrove

(130,869 posts)
14. Yes. And the premier Danielle Smith has been bankrupting the public health care,
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:23 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jan 29, 2026, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

or tried hard to, which will remind Albertans that she does not have their welfare at heart, but does have the welfare of private healthcare coprporations close to her heart. Keeping our public healthcare is a top issue for all Canadians.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,378 posts)
17. In any case the referendum is nonbinding
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:40 PM
Thursday

And any separation would have to be approved by the federal government and the First Nations people who live in Alberta.

It’s a boneheaded idea that will hopefully spell the end of Danielle Smith’s career.

OGBuzz

(66 posts)
21. Damn, if only Danielle was 40 years younger...
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 06:00 PM
Thursday

she'd be able to get work at the Mar a Lago sauna and steam room handing out towels to the boys.

WestMichRad

(3,038 posts)
28. Well, it's amazing what they can do with a bit of surgery these days.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:19 PM
Thursday

She could follow in Krusty Noem’s… er, shoes!

Metaphorical

(2,603 posts)
6. When I lived in Victoria, BC
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:35 PM
Thursday

there were a few Separatists that wanted to make Western Canada a distinct country. They were definitely the Canadian equivalents of Magats, even twenty years ago. However, they were never terribly popular.

I suspect nowadays they are even less so.





Bev54

(13,290 posts)
16. They have always been here, the separatists, I think they just have gotten louder because
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:38 PM
Thursday

they are getting funding and encouragement from the Trump admin. Alberta is not going to separate and I hope like hell we are smart enough to get rid of DS in the next election.

The biggest fight will be the disinformation and while most Canadians wouldn't fall for it, we have some real dingers here in Alberta but they are still a minority.

Torchlight

(6,445 posts)
9. It's how I feel about the bumpkins arguing for TX secession.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:38 PM
Thursday

And probably just as effective... in that it's an empty pipe dream meant to distract from actual solutions. A 2020 poll had fully one-third of Texans supporting secession, but my guess is it's little more than a soft wish outside of a very, very few.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,378 posts)
15. Not gonna happen
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:30 PM
Thursday

Only about 30% of Albertans support separation, and the referendum is nonbinding.

Even if it passed, separation cannot occur without the approval of both the federal government and the people of the First Nations on land within Alberta (and they are a hard NO).

But Angus is correct- those meeting with Americans to strategize and fundraise are traitors.

Disaffected

(6,235 posts)
29. I believe it would also require a change to
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:23 PM
Thursday

the Constitution Act. All things considered, Ain't Gonna' Happen.

Spazito

(55,283 posts)
20. Alberta is not going to fall...
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:53 PM
Thursday

it will continue to be the Canadian outlier, the 'Texas North" for the foreseeable future.

Seeking Serenity

(3,288 posts)
24. Frankly, Alberta needs to be governed and governed hard.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 06:18 PM
Thursday

Those country f***s have no rights (or ought not).

littlemissmartypants

(32,431 posts)
30. First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:27 PM
Thursday


First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta
Indigenous leaders call out Jeffrey Rath, one of the leaders of the separatism movement

Author of the article:By Steven Sandor
Published Jan 29, 2026
Last updated 1 hour ago
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/first-nations-chiefs-laugh-independent-alberta/wcm/6dca435c-9eac-44a8-8f83-a4bdd3e76743

...
They weren’t laughing “with” someone, they were laughing “at” someone. That person wasn’t in the west Edmonton offices of the Treaty 8 First Nations of Alberta. But Jeffrey Rath, the lawyer who’s become one of the loudest mouthpieces of the Alberta separatist movement, was the target of derision for some of Alberta’s First Nations leaders.

On Thursday, the leaders from three treaty lands all rejected Rath’s promise. They gathered to show that they’re united against the current petition that, if successful, would trigger a referendum on Alberta independence. Sturgeon Lake Cree Nation, the Blackfoot Confederacy and the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation have launched suits against the petition and the province’s Bill 14, which allows for citizen initiatives like the independence push.

Chief Billy-Joe Tuccaro of Mikisew Cree Nation, which is also planning to launch a lawsuit against the province, said that many Indigenous people remember Rath from when he represented a number of First Nations in their lawsuits against the federal government. Just a few years ago, Rath was well known for taking Indigenous treaty claims as far as the Supreme Court of Canada.
...
Oil and gas resources belong to the First Nations people “and we signed a treaty to share it with you. We didn’t sign a treaty for separation,” added Allan Adam, chief of the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation.

More at link.


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