How Can Anyone Trust The Numbers Coming From This Administration

[gab13by13]

The official count of payroll jobs at the end of 2025 was revised downward by more than 1 million on Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Previously, the agency estimated that payroll jobs totaled 159,526,000 in December. Now, it said the number is 158,497,000.

The downward correction, which was included as part of the monthly jobs report, is the largest such revision in the past decade.

I think back and wonder how many Americans really died from Covid?

[Walleye]

1. I don't believe anything, I don't even listen because I know it's gonna be a lie

A person can only tolerate hearing so many lies before they go crazy

[Wiz Imp]

2. And last year th job count at the end of the year was revised downward by over 600,000

I guess you agree with Trump that Biden was manipulating the numbers?

In reality, the jobs numbers continue to be 100% honest at this point. If that changes at any point, all hell will break loose because every legitimate economist in the world will call them out on it.

[gab13by13]

7. How many times have the numbers been revised upward?

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Kind of like Krasnov nominating the man who was the biggest critic of Jerome Powell to replace him.

The market loves it when companies cut people, their stock always jumps up. It's what most companies do to make the bottom line, fire people.

Even under the original projections, Trump presided over the weakest year of job gains outside of a recession since 2003, falling far short of the 168,000 jobs per month on average that were added to the U.S. economy under former President Joe Biden.

[C_U_L8R]

3. It doesn't seem Wall Street is buying Trump's bullshit.

I think they’ve just put him on ‘ignore’.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. MaddowBlog-New report shows 2025 was even worse for U.S. job market than we thought

A question for the White House: If Trump has created the greatest economy in history, why did job growth slow to a 16-year low after he returned to power?

We thought 2025 was a bad year for the U.S. job market. We now know it was far worse than we feared.

The question for the White House is simple: If Trump has created the greatest economy in history, why did job growth collapse after he returned to power?
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— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-02-11T14:00:53.622Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/new-report-shows-2025-was-even-worse-for-u-s-job-market-than-we-thought

Expectations heading into this week showed projections of about 55,000 new jobs being created in the United States in January. As it turns out, according to the new report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the totals exceeded those expectations. CNBC News reported:

Job growth was stronger than expected to start 2026, providing some relief to concerns about the state of the U.S. labor market.

Nonfarm payrolls increased by 130,000 for January, compared to the downwardly revised growth of 48,000 in December, and above the Dow Jones consensus estimate for 55,000, according to seasonally adjusted figures the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Wednesday.

The unemployment rate edged lower to 4.3%.

....But while the new report wasn’t a disaster, it’s only a small part of a larger picture: The February report from the BLS is unique because it includes revised data from the entire previous calendar year.

And on this front, the new data is quite brutal.

Previous estimates showed that the U.S. economy generated 584,000 jobs in the first year of Donald Trump’s second term, which was deeply discouraging. In fact, if we exclude years in which the economy fell into recession, the preliminary data showed that 2025 was the worst year for U.S. job growth since 2003.

Now, however, the picture is far worse: The newly revised, final data shows that the U.S. economy added only 181,000 jobs in 2025......

In other words, what would ordinarily be seen as a good month for job growth represented the entirety of the year. Indeed, in the final month of Joe Biden’s presidency, the economy created 237,000 jobs, more than entirety of the year that followed.

What’s more, we now know that in four months last year, the U.S. economy actually lost jobs — the first time this has happened since the Great Recession.

This week, the president peddled a familiar boast, insisting that he’s responsible for creating “the greatest economy, actually, ever in history.”

That was bonkers for a variety of reasons, but the new jobs data makes the claim look even worse. Indeed, the question for Trump and his White House team is simple: If Trump has created the greatest economy in history, why did American job growth slow to a 16-year low after he returned to power?

The trumpies hid how bad 2025 was and are hoping that we do not see the actual 2025 jobs

[ProfessorGAC]

5. We Can't

Yeah, the cult will believe anything but anyone with a functioning brain questions the reported numbers.

[2naSalit]

6. Can't...

Because all they do is lie. It's that simple.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. The government revises numbers all the time, in every administration

I’m not suggesting you should trust anything this administration says, but statistical revisions are not in and of themselves a reason for mistrust.

[gab13by13]

9. The largest revision in a decade

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. Yup, it's a BFD. Nt

[Wuddles440]

11. It is a cause for concern when...

the felon controlling the Executive Branch demeans, falsely accuses, and replaces the BLS Commissioner because he didn't like the data she was reporting. I served in Federal LE for 30 years and this administration is probably the most corrupt one in our history.

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. This administration has not earned the people's trust

And any statistics they report should be suspect.

But the OP was asserting the numbers couldn’t be trusted because they were revised, as if the act of revision was itself an act of corruption, when it is not.

[Wuddles440]

14. Agreed!

[gab13by13]

12. I need to be more clear,

Polls are only as good as the data it gets and the programs it uses.

I'm not saying that the people who crunch the numbers are corrupt, I'm saying they have to go by the information they are getting.

Similarly, I would venture a guess that a lot more Americans died from Covid than was reported for numerous reasons.

I watch articles scroll across my home page about all of the factories, restaurants, businesses cutting back or shutting down. Manufacturing is down. I just get the sense of the climate I see, and it's not positive, not even talking about AI.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Reality: 800,000+ layoffs this year -- the worst YTD since 2020, per nonpartisan analysts.

Link to tweet

[struggle4progress]

16. "Are you saying they aren't really numbers? They're numbers! They're really numbers!"