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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's a ticket for 2028. Whaddya think?
Newsom - CA
Whitmer - MI
Too early, of course, but Newsom seems a frontrunner now and Whitmer is popular in MI
We can dream, can't we?
The Blue Flower
(6,569 posts)He was a great public servant for Washington State.
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)I do envision Trump not lasting (health or impeachment) out his term and Vance will be hated by 2028.
MurrayDelph
(5,768 posts)as Secretary of the Interior.
Ziggy Beans
(40 posts)The Democrats can do so much better
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)!!!
leftstreet
(41,200 posts)The Democrats have been doing "transitional" since Reagan. Dialing back a bad policy here, doing a Cash For Clunkers there. It's no longer sustainable with the current economic realities.
We need FDR level policies and programs at this point
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)No idea. Given history, it's just easier to see what won't work at this point
JustAnotherGen
(38,104 posts)And we'd end up (some of us) stuck back in 1877.
No - this time-
We bring the Confederates to heel. We humiliate them. We do that by denigrating their culture and and limiting their access to American resources.
No more 'transition'. I want an LBJ. He had guts.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,860 posts)Instead of copying Trumps revenge politics, why not kill the filibuster, expand the court, and Ram through progressive bill after bill (like Whitmer did in MI in one year with a single seat majority in the legislature), bills that improve the lives of all Americans, even those in the Confederate states.
If Democrats can find the courage to govern fearlessly, unhesitatingly and progressively, the could keep the trifecta for a generation or more.
But none of that can happen until the current MAGA majority on the court is neutralized.
JustAnotherGen
(38,104 posts)Sit around and hug it out with White Supremacists?
You know - we did that before . . . Those
poor widdle racists I'm being a big MEANIE to them!
Fiendish Thingy
(23,860 posts)If Dems govern fearlessly, unhesitatingly, and progressively in a manner that benefits all Americans (well, except billionaires) rather than punishes an excluded group, then voters will reward them with majorities for decades to come.
No need to hold hands and sing Kumbaya with people who dont share a sense of basic human decency, just plow ahead and wield their power without reservation or compromise. Sure, the right will raise holy hell, and scream and tantrum and run social media campaigns trying to continue to divide the country, but none of that will matter if Dems govern effectively, and people experience the benefits in their daily lives, rather than the go-slow pragmatic incrementalism of the valueless centrists.
JustAnotherGen
(38,104 posts)I don't think that's where the party Base in the Blue Trifecta States will be in 2028.
We look at 'those people' as demonic evil things. Case in point? The TN Legislature today. They need to be punished. They are truly evil and devoid of humanity.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,860 posts)Mass executions?
Or, like Trump, just denying those states FEMA funds and other federal benefits?
Revenge politics might make you feel good, but wont accomplish anything, and would guarantee a reversal of power in the next election.
JustAnotherGen
(38,104 posts)How about fair taxation? How about MAKING them desegregate the Christian Schools by pulling all education funding from those states until they do that?
How about going really big - one person one vote?
How about putting every single member of the Regime in Gitmo to await trial?
That's me being generous. Every single member of the CSA Gov and Military leaders should have been hung.
I mean - we even gave the Nazis trials.
So - wait -it's violent to want them tried for treason and overthrowing America?
Fiendish Thingy
(23,860 posts)But the DNC didnt spend millions to learn how to listen to men to nominate another women.
Newsom is a hard NO for me.
Chris Murphy is also interesting to me.
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)haele
(15,552 posts)And he was good for California 30% of the time, Okay for California 20% of the time, "Meh" for California 30% of the time, and, well, outright bad for California 20% of the time.
He's not exactly a Progressive and certainly not a Keynesian. He's more a populist, sort of like Kennedy was as President. Lots of buddies with money and creature comforts. And his agenda has always suited him.
Don't get me wrong. He's not - bad.
But he's not the type to walk in front of the cameras and say "They call me a traitor to my class and hate me. I welcome their hatred. I was elected by the people of the United States to help them, to fix the country to give them opportunities and the security to strive for them, and that's what I'm going to try to do. The Rich don't need my help. The rest of the Country does..."
And then roll up his sleeves and get to work.
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)I think he might be transformative. It's time those of us in New England states can feel good about our country again.
haele
(15,552 posts)If he sticks to his ethics when he has to compromise or negotiate a politically charged position, that's a plus on my list.
MurrayDelph
(5,768 posts)for any presidential or cabinet positions.
CTyankee
(68,402 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,768 posts)AND hold it.
rampartd
(4,892 posts)Intractable
(2,354 posts)CTyankee
(68,402 posts)The debates will be very revealing!
usonian
(26,359 posts)Have to exclude Jon Ossoff on this ticket for being the other senator from Georgia. (I'll work on an alternate )
Jamie Raskin
Gavin Newsom
Andy Beshear
Senator Elizabeth Warren
The Presidential choice (and next president) will unite people and separately inject some fire and brimstone of someone who "walks the walk" into profoundly CINO's. (Christians in name only) WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE!!
The VP choices will all both forcefully kick ass, deliver the good message, and skillfully carry out the work that needs to be done and to drive legislation.
Alternate: Mark Kelley
Separate category: Millionaires. They didn't get rich by giving money away.
- J.B. Pritzker
- Mark Cuban
A typical shopping list at this date:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-democrats-early-top-contenders-060002831.html