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Indyfan53

(544 posts)
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:06 PM Friday

Prepare to be disappointed in November

This one-two punch with the SCOTUS and the Virginia Supreme Court redistricting cases really fucked us. There is a good chance we come up short in November.

I hope I’m wrong, but the polls have been wrong many times before. Days like today are why I got my Irish passport.

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Prepare to be disappointed in November (Original Post) Indyfan53 Friday OP
No. mr715 Friday #1
What is your purpose in being so negative? Big Blue Marble Friday #2
This place has been in an emotional tailspin since the SCOTUs ruling last week. BannonsLiver Friday #6
Message auto-removed Name removed 4 hrs ago #14
You are wrong IndyFan53!! Ars Longa Friday #3
"It looks like they're pre-fixing elections" Dave says 6 hrs ago #12
Well, here in IA where this ruling doesn't really apply. Dems are polling highter than Rs progressoid Friday #4
I'm prepared for victory. BannonsLiver Friday #5
No kidding! GenThePerservering 6 hrs ago #11
I hear you edhopper Friday #7
Nope, not buying into your pessimistic BS. Blue tsunami in November for SURE! beaglelover Friday #8
A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article) LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #9
The economy almost always determines the winner. BlueTsunami2018 8 hrs ago #10
... struggle4progress 4 hrs ago #13
If the GOP gerrymandered every district it has left in any state where that can still be done, lees1975 3 hrs ago #15

Big Blue Marble

(5,707 posts)
2. What is your purpose in being so negative?
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:43 PM
Friday

Democrats are going to win in November. And they were going to win before this ruling
by more than five seats. Our economy is likely to be worse over the summer which will
shift the electorate even farther towards the Dems. There is a strong anti-incumpancy
mood in the country as well.

Yes this ruling is disappointing and shock at a perilous time, but it is a time to support each
other and the forces of democracy, not a time to demoralize each other.

BannonsLiver

(20,812 posts)
6. This place has been in an emotional tailspin since the SCOTUs ruling last week.
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:28 PM
Friday

We’re a fragile bunch.

Response to Big Blue Marble (Reply #2)

Ars Longa

(562 posts)
3. You are wrong IndyFan53!!
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:37 PM
Friday

this is a setback...
But, this makes Republicans look even worse!!!
(It looks like they are pre-fixing elections)..

Dave says

(5,458 posts)
12. "It looks like they're pre-fixing elections"
Sun May 10, 2026, 07:06 PM
6 hrs ago

I think they are, that’s why we’re in a tailspin. The forces against us are enormous, overwhelming. But that does not mean we go down without a fight.

progressoid

(53,352 posts)
4. Well, here in IA where this ruling doesn't really apply. Dems are polling highter than Rs
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:24 PM
Friday

Even though Trump won this state bigly and Rs outnumber Dems in registered voters, we will likely flip a senate seat and perhaps a house seat or two. Not to mention, putting a Dem in the Governors mansion.

This state is no longer red but trending purple.





BannonsLiver

(20,812 posts)
5. I'm prepared for victory.
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:27 PM
Friday

Sounds like you’re halfway out the door anyway with the Irish passport flex.

edhopper

(37,501 posts)
7. I hear you
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:29 PM
Friday

Add to voter suppression we haven't seen since Juim Crow and I think it will be a very tough election.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,653 posts)
9. A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article)
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:09 PM
8 hrs ago

I personally believe that given the ruling by Alito and other GOP gerrymandering, the steps outlined here are appropriate.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/10/us/politics/democrats-virginia-plans-gerrymandering.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hVA.KzAI.Wf17nRa9PSjl&smid=nytcore-ios-share

During a private discussion on Saturday that included Democratic House members from Virginia and Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the minority leader, the lawmakers vented anger at their defeat at the Virginia Supreme Court, spoke about a collective determination to flip two or three Republican-held seats under the existing map and discussed a bank-shot proposal to redraw the congressional lines anyway, according to three people who participated in the call and two others who were briefed on it.....

Any plans to enact a new congressional map for this year’s midterm elections would require action in the next few days. In a court filing last month, Steven Koski, the commissioner of the Virginia Department of Elections, said any changes to the maps after Tuesday, May 12, “will significantly increase the risk” of his agency being unable to properly prepare for the state’s scheduled Aug. 4 primary election......

One key to the plan would be having Democrats in Richmond lower the mandatory retirement age for state Supreme Court justices, an idea that began circulating among state lawmakers and members of Congress after a column proposing a version of the idea was published on Friday night in The Downballot, a progressive newsletter.

Ms. Spanberger would have to sign off on any legislation that lowered the judicial retirement age. She has not been briefed on the proposal, the people involved in the discussion or briefed on it said. Her spokeswoman, Libby Wiet, declined to comment.

The first step in the process, as discussed on the delegation’s call, would be to invoke a January ruling by a circuit court judge in Tazewell County, Va., that said the 2026 constitutional amendment effort to redraw the maps was invalid because county officials did not post notice of it at courthouses and other public locations three months before a general election.

Representative Suhas Subramanyam, a Democrat who represents Loudoun County, Va., said in an interview that he supported doing whatever was necessary to preserve the map voters approved in last month’s referendum — including replacing the state’s Supreme Court justices.

Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now; this is a complete disaster waiting to happen if people are timid,” said Mr. Subramanyam, who was on the Saturday call. “We have Republican states ignoring their constitutions and interrupting early voting and ignoring their Supreme Courts all together. We know based on that, Republicans would explore every single option possible to move this forward.”....

In an interview on Friday night, before his Saturday meeting with Virginia lawmakers, Mr. Jeffries said he was “exploring how to unravel this decision.”

“It’s an all-hands-on-deck moment, and it’s unprecedented in American history as far as we can tell that an actual election has been overturned by a handful of unelected judges,” Mr. Jeffries said. “We’re not going to step back, we will continue to fight back.”

This is a very aggressive plan which could backfire. However, this plan may be necessary to stop trump's gerrymandering.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,056 posts)
10. The economy almost always determines the winner.
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:31 PM
8 hrs ago

Harris lost in ‘24, despite all the noise to the contrary, because the economy was perceived to be awful even though it was improving. People didn’t feel it.

Now, the economy actually is awful, things cost much more, gas is through the roof and is only going up, the dollar has lost its value and people hate the tariffs. Everyone really feels how bad it is.

Democrats are going to dog walk the Republicans this year, even with all the bullshit they’ve pulled and are going to pull. It’s not going to matter.

And Democrats are going to win in ‘28 because of how much worse everything is going to be.

We’re pretty much going to see a replay of ‘06-‘08.

But they better not fucking waste it this time. We need very serious change and policies with real teeth. The party has got to tell the big money people to fuck off this time. They’ve had a gravy train for nearly fifty years, it’s time give some back to the working class. Otherwise we’re going to see ‘10 again in the ‘30 midterms. The cycle must be broken or things are going to get really ugly.

lees1975

(7,173 posts)
15. If the GOP gerrymandered every district it has left in any state where that can still be done,
Sun May 10, 2026, 09:39 PM
3 hrs ago

it will not be anywhere near enough, since even without Virginia, the Democrats have countered. The polls were based on how those districts voted for Trump in 2024, and my guess is at least half of them won't vote that way in the midterm. Even dividing up the district in Tennessee, which is just one seat, they've diluted the GOP vote to less than +8 in at least two others, and that was 2024.

We will have a net gain of 35 seats, and that's a conservative estimate.

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