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MineralMan

(151,498 posts)
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:40 AM 5 hrs ago

Where Has MineralMan Been?

Just in case someone wondered.

Well, a bit of adventure. After doing too many chores the day after catching my wife's cold, I got all weak and clammy. I mentioned that to her and she said, "Lets check something." Then she brought the house's pulse oximeter, something old beings like us have in their houses. So my blood Oxygen percentage was at 84. It stayed there for half an hour, so we got in the car and headed for an Urgent Care clinic operated by our Medicare Advantage Company's medical system.

Next thing I know, I'm in their Emergency Room. Living in a large metro area means our Allina Medical System, which is owned by Aetna, the company from which we have our Advantage Plan. More on that downthread.

From there, an emergency transport vehicle, also from the Allina system hauled me off to one of the largest hospital in Minneapolis, also owned by Allina and the Aetna Insurance company. I was popped into a bed there, in the wing that handles heart and respiratory cases. Some preliminary tests were done immediately. I had been on oxygen the whole time and my oxygen levels had come up. They took away the oxygen and the numbers went right back down.

For the next four days, I was subjected to every sort of scan and test you can imagine. Every part of my 80 year old body was scrutinized. Echo cardiogram, several ultrasound test available, along with more blood and other tests than I could ever have thought possible. I shy inquired about what this was going to cost. "Nothing. You're covered 100%." Again, this is why I have the Aetna Allina Advantage plan. It all gets approval before the testing is performed.

In the end, I have COPD, from many years of smoking. I will smoke no more. Now I'm using Nicotine patches for life. I'll be running through the Allina system's COPD specialty clinic from now on. I got stabilized, got some new meds, and am at home, temporarily with an Oxygen hose following me along. "You'll get rid of most of that before long," I've been told. I'm a little better now, and back at home, resting a lot and taking pills and nebulizer treatments and a little oxygen as needed. "Slow down a little," I was advised. So I will.

The Good News
1. Another of the benefits of all those scans is that nothing was found that is scary. No lung cancer signs. No heart issues. Nothing in my digestive system or lungs, beyond some damage causing the COPD.

2. As the doctor who was supervising that part of the system said, "I don't know how you're getting away with this. If you slow down and do what we prescribe, your decrepit old 80 year old self will probably see you well into your 90s." After I told her that both of my parents lived to be 96, she said, "Well, you got some good genes from them, then. I was surprised that you didn't have any frightening surprises revealed. Lucky man!"

3. Every one who worked in that specialized wing was great. From the experienced doctors to the burka-clad Somali medical assistants, everyone was friendly, helpful and caring. Of course, I followed my father's advice given long ago, "If people are helping you in a bad time, give them your complete respect and keep all of your frustrations hidden. Thank each one, even if what they do hurts. They're caring for you. Be grateful and cooperative always." He was a wise, wise man, I assure you.

My Political Advice and Opinion about Medicare Advantage Programs

Many people curse at those here on DU. Not all of the naysayers offer good information. If you have choices offered to you when selecting one, do as much research as you can. Don't get the $0 premium version. Choose a plan near to the most expensive. You'll be glad you did, I promise. Then, learn how your provider operates, and what facilities and companies they're aligned with. Research those, too, and if you need services, go to the clinics, etc. that have the best reviews. Do this in advance of need. If you must go a few more miles to get to their best clinics, hospitals, etc., you'll be rewarded, as I was.

Don't listen to online naysayers. They are generally uninformed about your local options. Research what is available to you for yourself. It could save your life. Then, do what your medical pros tell you to do. Ask polite questions when you have them, and be patient. It's not always easy, but it's your best route. Treat those who help you as trusted friends. That's what they want to be. Give what you'd like to get.

I just got home yesterday. I'm still moving slowly as I recover. The old Grumpy MineralMan will be back shortly. Meanwhile, I probably won't comment on the replies in this thread as I usually do. I'll probably be resting up for a while longer. But, I wanted to say a few (a bunch) of words about this.

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Where Has MineralMan Been? (Original Post) MineralMan 5 hrs ago OP
Take it easy, man! obamanut2012 5 hrs ago #1
Good for you Man! Hey Joe 5 hrs ago #2
Glad you're going to be ok MM angrychair 5 hrs ago #3
COPD is a pain LetMyPeopleVote 5 hrs ago #4
You are one lucky man malaise 5 hrs ago #5
Glad to hear you got good care mcar 5 hrs ago #6
Good heavens, that sounds scary! Glad they figured out the problem quickly Ocelot II 5 hrs ago #7
I "quit" smoking about a month ago, now it's Juul and chantix, I don't really miss cigs and Shellback Squid 5 hrs ago #8
👍 underpants 4 hrs ago #9
Glad you're on the mend MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #10
Wow! Glad to hear you're doing better! CaptainTruth 4 hrs ago #11
Hang in there leftstreet 4 hrs ago #12
Thanks for this post, MineralMan! calimary 4 hrs ago #13
Advantage Plan User here Mollyann 4 hrs ago #14
I'm so sorry you have COPD, but I'm glad you were able to get such great care so quickly. Please highplainsdem 4 hrs ago #15
Just curious about what supplements helped her kidneys. Thanks likesmountains 52 1 hr ago #48
'Glad you were appropriately diagnosed, treated and doing much better... hlthe2b 4 hrs ago #16
Glad to hear you are still with us. jmbar2 4 hrs ago #17
One day, in your future, You are going to feel.........GREAT. Zackzzzz 4 hrs ago #18
Wow this is a good story with a great ending! FakeNoose 4 hrs ago #19
I agree that tobacco is the devil-weed. ShazzieB 2 hrs ago #42
Oh MM mountain grammy 4 hrs ago #20
Welcome to the club PatSeg 4 hrs ago #21
Thank you for your post. Good to hear you will soon be Polly Hennessey 4 hrs ago #22
My wife is a RN. She's my angel and has multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #24
Ok Lucky. multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #23
Goodness!!! Bet that was fun! (Not!) hamsterjill 4 hrs ago #25
Yikes, that must've been scary for you and the missus. Jedi Guy 4 hrs ago #26
Wow...84... PCIntern 3 hrs ago #27
That must have been quite a scare. greatauntoftriplets 3 hrs ago #28
Glad you are still with us, MM. Sending vibes for complete recovery niyad 3 hrs ago #29
Glad you're feeling better. SimplyHadEnough 3 hrs ago #30
I'm glad you're doing better &:have a handle on things dflprincess 3 hrs ago #31
I'm very glad you are doing well! But we have Traditional Medicare pnwmom 3 hrs ago #32
I am glad you are back. Continue your road to recovery. LoisB 3 hrs ago #33
Feel better/Get better! H2O Man 3 hrs ago #34
So you're good for another 100,000 miles now.. Permanut 2 hrs ago #35
Thanks for letting us know! Richluu 2 hrs ago #36
This is so good to hear! DeeDeeNY 2 hrs ago #37
I'm so glad you are getting better and received good care when you needed it lostnfound 2 hrs ago #38
Glad you are back! Trueblue Texan 2 hrs ago #39
I am very glad you are on the mend, MM! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 2 hrs ago #40
Glad you're back, MM!! 70sEraVet 2 hrs ago #41
So you have a new and shiny COPD Club card. Welcome! madamesilverspurs 2 hrs ago #43
Glad you're ok! Maeve 2 hrs ago #44
Welcome Back proud patriot 1 hr ago #45
Wishing you all the best for a quick recovery. MLAA 1 hr ago #46
Glad you are back home, MineralMan. gademocrat7 1 hr ago #47
PAY ATTENTION TO THE DOC'S INSTRUCTIONS AverageOldGuy 44 min ago #49
Wishing you a speedy recovery, I am sorry to hear you have had to go through all this. Bev54 19 min ago #50
Feel better MM lostincalifornia 10 min ago #51
Ahhh man, going through the tribulation and coming out on top, so to speak. I'm glad you are still kicking and SWBTATTReg 8 min ago #52

angrychair

(12,467 posts)
3. Glad you're going to be ok MM
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:48 AM
5 hrs ago

Very happy to hear you got good care and sounds like they jumped on it fast, which is also good.

Keep getting better and happy to hear you will be kicking around here for many years to come.

Ocelot II

(131,135 posts)
7. Good heavens, that sounds scary! Glad they figured out the problem quickly
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:05 PM
5 hrs ago

and established effective treatment (and of course using O2 would also be an excellent deterrent from smoking). Get well, take it easy!

As to your insurance situation - you're right; everyone should research all options carefully. I have regular Medicare along with a supplement I got as a retirement benefit from my old job, and so far it's worked very well for me. We are both very fortunate to have excellent medical resources in this area (my provider is affiliated with the University of Minnesota), so that's also a consideration when deciding what coverage to get.

Shellback Squid

(10,139 posts)
8. I "quit" smoking about a month ago, now it's Juul and chantix, I don't really miss cigs and
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:07 PM
5 hrs ago

I am reducing my vaping too...that's when I will consider myself an ex smoker when I am done with the vape
You will appreciate when you no longer spend $10/$14 on them and everything smells better including you

Good on ya!

Mollyann

(158 posts)
14. Advantage Plan User here
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:33 PM
4 hrs ago

We have used Kelsey Care Advantage since becoming eligible. My husband and I both have been diagnosed with cancer. He is six years out from his robotic prostate removal and I am over three years out from my right side laparoscopic colonectomy.
Fortunately neither of us have had to undergo radiation or chemo. We receive excellent care and do not need referrals to see a specialist. We are very pleased with the urologists, GI, dermatologists, cardiologists, oncologists, optometrists, audiologists etc. either one or both have seen. The surgeons and hospitals were excellent.

highplainsdem

(62,971 posts)
15. I'm so sorry you have COPD, but I'm glad you were able to get such great care so quickly. Please
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:36 PM
4 hrs ago

take it easy and take good care of yourself.

I want to suggest, too, that you check out information on supplements that might help, especially CoQ10, and ask your doctors whether you should take it. Possibly they already recommended it. Just one article about it:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33441012/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/15412555.2020.1849084?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed#d1e565

Twenty years ago my mom started developing heart failure after fifteen years of other heart problems. I asked her cardiologist at the heart clinic about CoQ10, which I'd read could be helpful for both heart failure and COPD (which she didn't have, despite having been a smoker until she had heart trouble). He approved of her taking it, said other patients of his took it. I asked why he hadn't recommended it and he said something about it not yet being standard enough treatment that the clinic wanted their cardiologists to mention it first to patients. Anyway, Mom recovered from heart failure after taking CoQ10.

She took quite a few supplements, always with her cardiologist and GP's approval. I've never forgotten an appointment where her cardiologist was showing her off to another cardiologist and an intern who had stopped by, explaining how many supplements she was on and how little medication, just one med, a blood thinner - and it was painfully obvious that they weren't interested in hearing about supplements. Mom's cardiologist once mentioned Canadian cardiologists he knew who were doing research on supplements, and he sounded envious.

She lived to 96, like your parents - passed away a few months before what would have been her 97th birthday. She'd had phlebitis in her 30s, failing kidneys in her 40s (supplements helped there, too), and had first developed heart trouble (which runs in the family, including my siblings) at 70.

A diagnosis is not a sentence. Health can almost always be improved. And it helps to have as much information as possible.

hlthe2b

(114,535 posts)
16. 'Glad you were appropriately diagnosed, treated and doing much better...
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:38 PM
4 hrs ago

..and even better that you are kicking the cigarettes. Keep the alcohol moderate too and reduce indoor and outdoor pollutants as much as possible (avoid outdoor physical exertion on bad air quality days and if indoor dust or other allergens is an issue, consider HEPA air purifiers in your home. All can help a lot. National Jewish Health is located in Denver (www.nationaljewish.org) --the world renowned center for respiratory diseases-- and I collaborated on a study with them some time ago. While our altitude is a major issue for COPD out here (and Denver's ozone pollution), the other issues mentioned really impact recovery and stabilization.

To your returned good health.

jmbar2

(8,135 posts)
17. Glad to hear you are still with us.
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:38 PM
4 hrs ago

Thanks for the update and the useful information on your health insurance. I am bookmarking this for the future, in case I need to reconsider my insurance.

Best wishes for a comfortable recovery. Quitting smoking is a bitch.

Zackzzzz

(394 posts)
18. One day, in your future, You are going to feel.........GREAT.
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:40 PM
4 hrs ago

IGNORE IT!!!

Don't lift those weights or do sit-ups.

Just sit back, with liquid and music of choice, and say to yourself isn't nice to feel great.
Share that moment with your wife.

I speak from experience.

FakeNoose

(42,267 posts)
19. Wow this is a good story with a great ending!
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:40 PM
4 hrs ago

My parents were both heavy smokers for their entire lives, and they both died of cancer. I think my mom showed signs of emphysema but she wasn't diagnosed with it. Breast and lung cancers killed her at 62. My dad lived into his 80's but lung cancer finally got him too. Cigarettes are an awful thing and tobacco is the devil-weed. I'm so glad you've given them up for good.

Best of luck, MineralMan!

ShazzieB

(22,830 posts)
42. I agree that tobacco is the devil-weed.
Mon May 11, 2026, 02:55 PM
2 hrs ago

My parents were also lifelong heavy smokers. They managed to escape cancer, but they both had cardiac issues that were were probably caused and definitely aggravated by the smoking, and my mom had COPD as well. My dad made it to 77, which doesn't sound that bad if you don't know that his father lived into his 90s and one of his sisters made it to 101. My mom only made it to 66 before succumbing to congestive heart failure (dad went first, because he was 20 years older). Mom wanted to quit smoking and made many half-hearted attempts, but never succeeded even after the COPD diagnosis.

I hate cigarettes with a passion and love the clean indoor air laws my state passed some time back.

mountain grammy

(29,168 posts)
20. Oh MM
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:55 PM
4 hrs ago

Concerned and happy all at once for you, and I have missed you!

Congratulations on quitting. Best thing you’ll ever do, I promise!

PatSeg

(53,452 posts)
21. Welcome to the club
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:57 PM
4 hrs ago

Sounds like you are recovering extremely well for an 80 year old! I've been dealing with COPD for many years and now congestive heart failure occasionally too.

I've been surprised at how many body parts have been wearing out in the past few years, sometimes resulting in surgery. So as you recuperate, I am laying on my couch doing the same thing. I think I have a few more years in me, but this can be exhausting.

Polly Hennessey

(8,940 posts)
22. Thank you for your post. Good to hear you will soon be
Mon May 11, 2026, 12:59 PM
4 hrs ago

a grumpy old guy again.

My sister is an ICU nurse and some of her stories about how patients treat nurses is troubling. I sent her the quote from your father.

multigraincracker

(37,996 posts)
23. Ok Lucky.
Mon May 11, 2026, 01:00 PM
4 hrs ago

I’ve got the best health insurance can’t buy. UAW BC/BS. Have a pacemaker and I jog 3 to 5 miles about 5 days a week at age 76. All my Cardio docs say the same thing keep moving.
Wife has COPD and uses a machete at night and doing well. For anyone deciding on insurance in old age I recommend seeing your local Councilors On Aging. Best advise on what to get.
Hang in there and keep moving.

Jedi Guy

(3,493 posts)
26. Yikes, that must've been scary for you and the missus.
Mon May 11, 2026, 01:07 PM
4 hrs ago

Glad you're doing better now and hope you continue to improve. I always enjoy reading your posts, they're very well thought out and insightful. All the best to you and your wife as you navigate this situation!

PCIntern

(28,556 posts)
27. Wow...84...
Mon May 11, 2026, 01:12 PM
3 hrs ago

Your subconscious knew that something was wrong. I’m glad you’re convalescing!

Best,

PC

greatauntoftriplets

(179,299 posts)
28. That must have been quite a scare.
Mon May 11, 2026, 01:13 PM
3 hrs ago

Best of luck for your return to health, and giving up smoking.

dflprincess

(29,408 posts)
31. I'm glad you're doing better &:have a handle on things
Mon May 11, 2026, 01:53 PM
3 hrs ago

For what it's worth. I was a heavy smoker & used Chantex to quit, worked way better than the patches ever did for me. However, I did have done awful nausea the first couple weeks but never the vivid dreams. Also never had a craving for a cigarette since.

However you do it, good luck with putting. It's worth the effort.

pnwmom

(110,318 posts)
32. I'm very glad you are doing well! But we have Traditional Medicare
Mon May 11, 2026, 02:07 PM
3 hrs ago

with a supplement, and it requires no approvals from the insurer, and everything is covered by the main policy or the supplement. We did carefully research this choice and it fit with our preferences. We and our doctors decide what care we need, not an AI at an insurance company.

This is especially important if you have a rare disease. Unfortunately, you can't know in advance if you'll be one of those people.

Permanut

(8,540 posts)
35. So you're good for another 100,000 miles now..
Mon May 11, 2026, 02:17 PM
2 hrs ago

Another 80 year old here, quit smoking 20 years ago after a heart scare. Glad to see you meet this challenge, and glad to see you back here.

madamesilverspurs

(16,527 posts)
43. So you have a new and shiny COPD Club card. Welcome!
Mon May 11, 2026, 03:01 PM
2 hrs ago

My club card is a bit dog-eared, given that it's 25 years old. The good news is that they keep learning more and passing that info along to us. A couple years into this journey my body gifted me with a paralyzed diaphragm to keep the COPD and sleep apnea company. Along with oxygen, meds, and a few rounds of pulmonary rehab, I'm still here. I graduated from Cpap to Bi-pap just before a new illness started plaguing mostly old folks; they didn't know yet what it was, but I spent about a month relying on the Bi-pap 24/7. Once they put a name on it and testing became available, blood tests confirmed that I'd had covid; my pulmonologist kept a close eye on me, and gave me a direct access phone number to his staff (which I never needed, thank God). I'm still on oxygen, that won't change; but that's a small inconvenience compared to what the outcome might have been. The silver lining was the Bi-pap, without which I'd likely not be here, so there's that.

It was an adjustment being tethered to an oxygen supply, but it really didn't take long to get used to it. Out and about, my portable concentrator does the job (although I have to carefully time my outings as the POC doesn't last that long). My only quibble is with insurance that won't pay for any emergency reserve tanks as backup in case of power outage.

Travel is interesting. It's been a while since I've gone anywhere, but each airline used to have their own rules for bringing POCs along, needed a signed note from my doctor. And going through TSA -- let's just say it wasn't fun when I was required to hand over the machine for them to examine while I went through the Xray. Back in '16 I got stuck overnight at the Denver airport due to a blizzard; had to find someplace to plug in the machine to recharge it and keep me breathing, and with all chairs and most floor space occupied the only available outlet was just outside the men's restroom, where I dozed upright in an airline provided wheelchair. Yippee.

Anyway, you ain't alone in this, as I'm sure you've gathered by now. Please don't hesitate to ask or comment, we're a big club. Glad you got the care you needed!


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MLAA

(19,789 posts)
46. Wishing you all the best for a quick recovery.
Mon May 11, 2026, 03:38 PM
1 hr ago

Just fyi, my husband had COPD and required a nebulizer. The on the hospital sent us home with was bulky and very noisy. I ordered a small hand held one on line. It was much quieter and lighter and worked well.

AverageOldGuy

(4,129 posts)
49. PAY ATTENTION TO THE DOC'S INSTRUCTIONS
Mon May 11, 2026, 04:25 PM
44 min ago

With COPD, your system reacts differently to oxygen.

I'm an old EMT, ran rescue for 14 years, retired 2 years ago. I was in a rural county where 38% of our population was over 65 and I had a lot of COPD patients.

We do not put COPD patients on more than 6 liters per minute of O2 because anything above that can cause big problems. I never put a COPD patient on more than 4L.

If you feel short of breath, difficulty getting your breath, or chest pains CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY, DO NOT DELAY, DO NOT TELL YOURSELF IT'S NOTHING. Be certain to tell the 911 operator you are COPD patient.

I'm not advertising for them or advocating for them but, especially if you are alone much of the time, look into one of the emergency pendant systems.

The doc should give you instructions about oxygen use, do exactly what doc says.

Bev54

(13,510 posts)
50. Wishing you a speedy recovery, I am sorry to hear you have had to go through all this.
Mon May 11, 2026, 04:50 PM
19 min ago

SWBTATTReg

(26,376 posts)
52. Ahhh man, going through the tribulation and coming out on top, so to speak. I'm glad you are still kicking and
Mon May 11, 2026, 05:01 PM
8 min ago

breathing, and still here to provide all of us your intelligent take on topics of the day, as well as those off-the-wall comedy tidbits we see from you sometimes. Hope you and your wife make full and complete recoveries.

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