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Am I the only one that is elated that the corporate wing of the party took it on on the chin in NYC? (Original Post) AStern 13 hrs ago OP
no, you aren't DBoon 13 hrs ago #1
I'm just over the "strongly worded letter " thomski64 12 hrs ago #2
true. But when you fight you make enemies 31j20b3 12 hrs ago #3
Oh dear orthoclad 10 hrs ago #5
No, I mean fighting will do you less good. 31j20b3 10 hrs ago #7
I've been waiting for a shift like this since 1984, intheflow 11 hrs ago #4
No orangecrush 10 hrs ago #6
It's fine when it's a solid Blue district like those in NYC, but I'm of mixed feelings maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #8
I like the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #9
Let the right wing have the rightwingers orthoclad 9 hrs ago #13
No n/t leftstreet 10 hrs ago #10
we need every establishment dem if we want to win rampartd 10 hrs ago #11
We need the Americans from that third orthoclad 9 hrs ago #14
YES! Blue Full Moon 10 hrs ago #12

thomski64

(1,002 posts)
2. I'm just over the "strongly worded letter "
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:48 PM
12 hrs ago

..the Neanderthal MAGA cretins give not one fuck about norms, compromise, rule of law,
the Constitution or Demoracy itself. Take the gloves off.

31j20b3

(77 posts)
3. true. But when you fight you make enemies
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 12:56 PM
12 hrs ago

and enemies only vote like you when they make a mistake.

I would argue don't take off the gloves, rather do the work to offer better solutions to the problems of your enemies than your enemy's favorite MAGA.

31j20b3

(77 posts)
7. No, I mean fighting will do you less good.
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:57 PM
10 hrs ago

I really don't care about who would like you or me, or not.

The work needing to be done is developing approaches that -attract- those currently unlikely to vote the same as you do.

Any thug can start a fight.

intheflow

(30,304 posts)
4. I've been waiting for a shift like this since 1984,
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 02:41 PM
11 hrs ago

the year I could first vote. I've been so frustrated over the decades, watching the party move ever-rightward. SO good to see it finally unfolding!

maxsolomon

(39,410 posts)
8. It's fine when it's a solid Blue district like those in NYC, but I'm of mixed feelings
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:01 PM
10 hrs ago

when it's a toss-up or Repuke-leaning district.

"Corporate" Dems are still 100x better than the most moderate Repukes.

Kid Berwyn

(25,475 posts)
9. I like the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:04 PM
10 hrs ago

You know, the one that believes in Democracy, the Constitution, and the New Deal and the Fair Deal and the New Frontier and the Great Society.

The other wing is always asking for money from the same people who benefit from Republican induced Trickle Down without cease stemming from Wars without End.

So yeah, AStern, I, too, think the winning strategy is clear: Use the power of Government to make life better for We the People -- ALL of us.

orthoclad

(5,079 posts)
13. Let the right wing have the rightwingers
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 04:10 PM
9 hrs ago

There is the 1/3 of Americans who don't vote, for a variety of well-studied reasons. We should appeal to them instead of leaning so far across the aisle that we fall on our noses.

rampartd

(5,471 posts)
11. we need every establishment dem if we want to win
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 03:20 PM
10 hrs ago

we need every 3rd way neoliberal and every conservative never trumper.

there is plenty to disagree about , but we need to save the glee and agree to disagree.

orthoclad

(5,079 posts)
14. We need the Americans from that third
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 04:13 PM
9 hrs ago

of the population who didn't vote. If we break away from being shackled to the right wing, we can draw in a lot of people.

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