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Another earthquake in Veneuela today (Original Post) malaise 19 hrs ago OP
This gets more horrible by the minute. niyad 18 hrs ago #1
Folks say to expect 100,000 deaths malaise 18 hrs ago #2
Utterly horrifying! niyad 18 hrs ago #3
Could fracking and/or drilling for oil be a factor? yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #23
Aftershocks. Igel 17 hrs ago #4
50,000 people missing. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #5
Sick isn't it malaise 17 hrs ago #7
You misspelled Empire. N/T AloeVera 16 hrs ago #10
Nicely played malaise 16 hrs ago #11
It's at least 4 so far genxlib 16 hrs ago #12
Thank you. I will! AloeVera 16 hrs ago #13
Appreciate the well wishes genxlib 16 hrs ago #14
"That is what makes them heroes". AloeVera 15 hrs ago #15
Appreciate that genxlib 14 hrs ago #16
You're just human. AloeVera 14 hrs ago #17
Horrific death toll already. Swede 17 hrs ago #6
This is just horrible leftstreet 17 hrs ago #8
I am so sorry to the people of Venezuela hookaleft 17 hrs ago #9
better to donate, they need help Skittles 13 hrs ago #19
I am broke hookaleft 9 hrs ago #20
I'm just saying as a general statement Skittles 8 hrs ago #21
Self care is important orthoclad 4 hrs ago #22
please everyone who is able, google "how to help Venezuela earthquake victims" Skittles 13 hrs ago #18
Look at this- Quakes lift T&T coastline by nearly 20 feet malaise 39 min ago #24

yellow dahlia

(6,911 posts)
23. Could fracking and/or drilling for oil be a factor?
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:39 PM
1 hr ago

Something seems awry. The earth is angry.

Igel

(37,694 posts)
4. Aftershocks.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 08:36 PM
17 hrs ago

After the Northridge quake we felt them for a few days.

https://earthquaketoday.net/venezuela versus https://earthquaketoday.org/venezuela -- different counts.

Depends what you call an earthquake and what's an aftershock.

On the earthquaketoday site notice how the quakes line up with the ridge where the fault is. A nice " target="_blank">illustration's available online.

AloeVera

(4,668 posts)
5. 50,000 people missing.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 08:41 PM
17 hrs ago

They've compiled a list.

The window is closing to find survivors.

The US has sent 2 of its 28 urban rescue teams. The other 26 is needed at home I guess, maybe to rescue dying ducks from the Reflecting Pool.

Trump has consented to sacrifice about 2 hours of bombing Iranians for humanitarian aid to a country where a quarter of the population is already dependent on it thanks to US sanctions and interference and now made poorer by the theft of its oil.

SMDH

genxlib

(6,190 posts)
12. It's at least 4 so far
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:25 PM
16 hrs ago

Virginia, California and .2 from south florida.

Could be more by now.

I am on one of the South Florida teams and I have written extensively here about WTC, Karina Haiti surfside etc.

They are out there now without me this time so keep them in your thoughts

AloeVera

(4,668 posts)
13. Thank you. I will!
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 09:32 PM
16 hrs ago

Only 2 had been reported earlier today, not including the south Florida teams. The more the better!!

The first 2 teams had a combined personnel of 150. Is that about the same for the Florida teams?

I saw many multi-story buildings collapsed, some pancaked. Are the teams bringing heavy machinery? What can be done without enough machinery?

Much admiration to you and your teams for the work that you do!

genxlib

(6,190 posts)
14. Appreciate the well wishes
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:08 PM
16 hrs ago

We usually travel with about 75-80 so that’s about right. It’s about 3/4 elite firefighters and paramedics and then some specialists like K9, doctors and engineers ( engineering is my thing).

We do travel with a lot of equipment but our traveling cache is mostly for breaking cutting shoring and jacking. Bigger stuff like cranes and lifts have to be provided locally. I’ve never seen a place that wasn’t able to get them locally but all bets are off when there is widespread destruction.

It depends a lot on the type of structure and collapse. Sometimes we can get into structures through voids without big equipment. But if they are tightly pancaked there isn’t really another way. Usually it is an evolution of working voids that ends up moving to more of a heavy demolition. But honestly that evolution often takes place after the survivability window because it is incredibly time consuming to do it carefully enough to prevent harming survivors in the collapse. The more targeted void work has a higher chance of success because it is faster and more surgical. Our team saved seven in Haiti entirely working voids. Of course there is more risk in that. Especially with aftershocks. But that is what makes them heroes.


AloeVera

(4,668 posts)
15. "That is what makes them heroes".
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 10:30 PM
15 hrs ago

Absolutely. Include yourself in that!

It takes a special kind of person to go into a void knowong it could collapse any moment. I don't think I could do it.

Holding all people there in my thoughts

genxlib

(6,190 posts)
16. Appreciate that
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 11:30 PM
14 hrs ago

Despite double digit deployments going back 30 years I have never been that comfortable thinking of myself that way. I have always sort of thought of myself like the punter or placekicker that has a certain skill that lets him hang out with the real jocks. I guess it is just my imposter syndrome talking.

I am sort of semi-retired from it now so I have spent more time reflecting on it in recent years and don’t try to run away from it as much.

But thanks for the thoughts.

AloeVera

(4,668 posts)
17. You're just human.
Sat Jun 27, 2026, 11:40 PM
14 hrs ago

We can be our own worst enemies sometimes, eh? Not feeling like we are as good or the "real thing".

Yes, I know about imposter syndrome, it's a real bad internal dialogue to kick and it should be kicked in the butt. Talking about it is a major step in that direction.

You are amazing just as you are.

hookaleft

(1,426 posts)
20. I am broke
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 04:48 AM
9 hrs ago

I have been donating to democrats across the country so that we can retake the house and senate. I only have so much to give. If our institutions that have been gutted and eliminated by DOGE were there, perhaps our Country could help.

Skittles

(173,656 posts)
21. I'm just saying as a general statement
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 06:04 AM
8 hrs ago

donated money is far more beneficial than thoughts and prayers

orthoclad

(5,196 posts)
22. Self care is important
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 09:20 AM
4 hrs ago

"You can't take care of others unless you take care of yourself." - me (self-deprecating grin)

malaise

(299,662 posts)
24. Look at this- Quakes lift T&T coastline by nearly 20 feet
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 01:32 PM
39 min ago
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/quakes-lift-t-t-coastline-by-nearly-20-feet/article_ea05ac0a-343f-4fdc-8b05-8bb702b714d6.html

A portion of Trinidad’s south-western coast was thrust nearly 20 feet upwards in the aftermath of the devastating twin earthquakes that rocked Venezuela last week, unsettling the Galfa coastline and trapping hundreds of sea animals among the rubble in a matter of seconds.

By yesterday afternoon Venezuela had reported more than 400 aftershocks that followed 7.2—and 7.5-magnitude quakes that have killed at least 1,400 along its northern coast line thus far. Miles away in Cedros, residents first discovered the raised seabed along an isolated strip of the Galfa coast on the morning after the quakes.

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