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In It to Win It

(12,911 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:17 AM 15 hrs ago

SCOTUS holds states can count late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day

First (but *not* last) ruling from #SCOTUS today is in Watson v. RNC. For a 5-4 majority (with Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh dissenting), Justice Barrett holds that federal law does *not* bar states from counting late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day.

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2026-06-29T14:02:49.360Z
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SCOTUS holds states can count late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day (Original Post) In It to Win It 15 hrs ago OP
Good Aviation Pro 15 hrs ago #1
WOW... Hate to say it ordinarily, but thank you Amy Coney Barrett hlthe2b 15 hrs ago #2
Amy Barrett has had a couple of ruling which favored The People IMHO--but admit I already forget which ones. riversedge 15 hrs ago #4
Maybe Trump will alienate some more women with a typical nasty comment. Would be a win for us. RoeVWade 15 hrs ago #7
Yes, she has come across as a bit more PatSeg 14 hrs ago #10
Oh, yes, T and A, as I like to call them, will ALWAYS be as extreme as possible. ShazzieB 12 hrs ago #44
I'll be happy with an age or health related retirement PatSeg 11 hrs ago #46
Age related retirement would be fine, except for one thing. ShazzieB 1 hr ago #48
Ketchup will be flying... SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #3
It appears that Amy Coney Barret has become the deciding vote on this Supreme Court. kentuck 15 hrs ago #5
Does this ruling shoot down the proposed SAVE Act... kentuck 15 hrs ago #6
No Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #8
But this is the law until Congress votes to change it? kentuck 14 hrs ago #12
Yes, this is law until Congress passes new law that changes it. In It to Win It 14 hrs ago #16
Congress can still try to change those laws. Ms. Toad 14 hrs ago #13
Yeah, the SAVE Act would absolutely end up in front of the Court Sympthsical 14 hrs ago #19
Would that require homegirl 14 hrs ago #20
Currently the SAVE act is being blocked by the Senate, Ms. Toad 14 hrs ago #26
But what about the post office refusing to mail ballots in states that don't supply dump with the voter lists CurtEastPoint 14 hrs ago #9
I believe this is being challenged PatSeg 14 hrs ago #11
Blocked by Federal Court judge last week. paleotn 14 hrs ago #25
AMAZING! Thanks! CurtEastPoint 13 hrs ago #35
WTF. This should be a fucking no brainer since the vote was cast during an election. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 14 hrs ago #14
Some areas keep the post office open until midnight MichMan 14 hrs ago #30
Wow, a rare SCOTUS decision not in favor of the Murdoch Ministry Of Propaganda! What's next? Initech 14 hrs ago #15
A good ruling MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #37
Well, we got to take whatever wins we can get! Initech 13 hrs ago #38
I'm in agreement MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #40
I'm going to guess they pull nonsense on birthright citizenship EnergizedLib 14 hrs ago #17
State CAN count them or MUST count them? Blumancru 14 hrs ago #18
It depends on state laws MichMan 14 hrs ago #22
It's important that blue voters in states that DON'T allow those delivered after the election day are aware of this. RockCreek 7 hrs ago #47
Just 'forget' to postmark ones in blue districts... kirby 14 hrs ago #21
Or someone will come up with their own copy of a postmark. MichMan 14 hrs ago #23
But will the post office post mark them? yellowcanine 14 hrs ago #24
Good malaise 14 hrs ago #27
Bottom line MoseShrute 14 hrs ago #28
This jives with contract law - postmark dates a contract bucolic_frolic 14 hrs ago #29
This would have been a no brainer to probably every other Supreme Court. crud 14 hrs ago #31
That 2000 election, popsdenver 13 hrs ago #41
The Extreme Court has the "shadow docket" Soul_of_Wit 13 hrs ago #43
Why would anyone wait until election day to use a mail in ballot? MichMan 14 hrs ago #32
The undersranding used to be because it would be counted and also because things change dramatically (esp in primaries) SSJVegeta 13 hrs ago #34
An actual example usage of "procrastinate" from Merriam-Webster.com Soul_of_Wit 13 hrs ago #39
Barrett has been the most democratic member of the anti-democracy court SSJVegeta 13 hrs ago #33
Barrett just told the GOP how to change federal law Raven123 13 hrs ago #36
Just more evidence to me the Supreme Court must be expanded standingtall 13 hrs ago #42
Scotland ABC123Easy 12 hrs ago #45

hlthe2b

(115,220 posts)
2. WOW... Hate to say it ordinarily, but thank you Amy Coney Barrett
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:20 AM
15 hrs ago

This is good news in a sea of bad lately.

riversedge

(82,280 posts)
4. Amy Barrett has had a couple of ruling which favored The People IMHO--but admit I already forget which ones.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:31 AM
15 hrs ago

RoeVWade

(967 posts)
7. Maybe Trump will alienate some more women with a typical nasty comment. Would be a win for us.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Weird but seems true.

PatSeg

(54,085 posts)
10. Yes, she has come across as a bit more
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:48 AM
14 hrs ago

moderate and reasonable. In the meantime, we can pretty much guarantee that Alito and Thomas will be as extreme as possible.

ShazzieB

(23,093 posts)
44. Oh, yes, T and A, as I like to call them, will ALWAYS be as extreme as possible.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:48 PM
12 hrs ago

I also like to call them the Gruesome Twosome (among other, less PG rated things).

I hope they both drop dead on January 21, 2029, the day after our new Democratic president gets sworn in. (A girl can dream, okay? )

PatSeg

(54,085 posts)
46. I'll be happy with an age or health related retirement
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 02:09 PM
11 hrs ago

They are both old enough and Thomas barely looks alive anyway (though he's always looked like that I suppose).

"T and A"!!!

ShazzieB

(23,093 posts)
48. Age related retirement would be fine, except for one thing.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:42 AM
1 hr ago

Gone is gone, however it happens, but I don't think either of them would voluntarily retire with a Democrat in the White House, and if anyone retires from SCOTUS while Trump's still in office, God knows what kind of freak(s) he would replace them with!

kentuck

(116,098 posts)
5. It appears that Amy Coney Barret has become the deciding vote on this Supreme Court.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:37 AM
15 hrs ago

And we will take our victories wherever we can get them.

This was a big vote and ketchup is running down the walls near the Oval Office.

Sympthsical

(11,311 posts)
8. No
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:43 AM
15 hrs ago

The Court's interpretation here was purely based on current statute law about elections.

Congress can still change those laws.

kentuck

(116,098 posts)
12. But this is the law until Congress votes to change it?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:51 AM
14 hrs ago

Right?

Then it could be challenged in Court?

Ms. Toad

(38,912 posts)
13. Congress can still try to change those laws.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:56 AM
14 hrs ago

Whether they are legally permitted to remains an open question.

homegirl

(2,040 posts)
20. Would that require
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:21 AM
14 hrs ago

fifty one votes or sixty six + votes in the Senate, and would it also not have to be passed by the House?

Ms. Toad

(38,912 posts)
26. Currently the SAVE act is being blocked by the Senate,
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:41 AM
14 hrs ago

where they don't have enough votes for cloture (60 votes), to end a the filibuster and likely don't have enough (50+1) even if they overcome the filibuster.

The House has already passed the SAVE act. So if it passes the Senate, we're done.

CurtEastPoint

(20,147 posts)
9. But what about the post office refusing to mail ballots in states that don't supply dump with the voter lists
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:48 AM
14 hrs ago

PatSeg

(54,085 posts)
11. I believe this is being challenged
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:50 AM
14 hrs ago

Not sure about the details though. I'm on overload right now.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,433 posts)
14. WTF. This should be a fucking no brainer since the vote was cast during an election.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:57 AM
14 hrs ago

Let me make this in a sports analogy, since that is all most people understand these days. If I toss a basketball during a game and it makes the basket before the game ends, the score counts! Duh.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
30. Some areas keep the post office open until midnight
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:44 AM
14 hrs ago

Meaning people were allowed to mail ballots after in person voting sites were closed

Initech

(109,680 posts)
15. Wow, a rare SCOTUS decision not in favor of the Murdoch Ministry Of Propaganda! What's next?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

Initech

(109,680 posts)
38. Well, we got to take whatever wins we can get!
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:18 PM
13 hrs ago

This war is far from over. Fuck Trump, fuck SCOTUS, and fuck Fox News!

EnergizedLib

(3,233 posts)
17. I'm going to guess they pull nonsense on birthright citizenship
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:09 AM
14 hrs ago

You know how it goes with this corrupt court. For every decision that goes our way, there are nine which don’t.

Blumancru

(390 posts)
18. State CAN count them or MUST count them?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:15 AM
14 hrs ago

There is a big difference between the two, and I bet there will be a big difference between the way red and blue states handle late arriving ballots.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
22. It depends on state laws
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:31 AM
14 hrs ago

Those that allow it based on postmarks can continue to do so. Those that don't aren't forced to.

RockCreek

(1,644 posts)
47. It's important that blue voters in states that DON'T allow those delivered after the election day are aware of this.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 05:56 PM
7 hrs ago

It would be easy to misinterpret this as applying to all states.

MoseShrute

(176 posts)
28. Bottom line
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:42 AM
14 hrs ago

If at all possible, get that ballot completed and put in the mail ASAP. There will always be some weird situations where that isn’t possible, but those should be exceptions.

bucolic_frolic

(56,366 posts)
29. This jives with contract law - postmark dates a contract
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:42 AM
14 hrs ago

Now the GOP can focus on getting the USPS to slow down delivery.

crud

(1,330 posts)
31. This would have been a no brainer to probably every other Supreme Court.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:44 AM
14 hrs ago

Up until the Bush V Gore ruling, they always made the voter and the right to vote paramount.

popsdenver

(2,832 posts)
41. That 2000 election,
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:29 PM
13 hrs ago

was the second time the Republican's Supreme Court allowed a decision that should have been challenged BIG TIME.
Voting was a States Right. The U.S. Supreme Court had absolutely NO LEGAL RIGHT to intervene in the Florida Election Re-count. But the Supremes came in, stopped the re-count, dictated by Florida Law, because they suspected that it would show Gore the Winner.............
The worst part is, that once the Supreme Court corruptly and illegally pulled that off, it forever established a precedent for them to use from then on. Allowing them to use it to corruptly and illegally use it as a precedent to interject themselves into elections for ever more.........................

The first time was when HWBush and his CABAL committed treason to throw the election to "installing" Reagan.........

Soul_of_Wit

(209 posts)
43. The Extreme Court has the "shadow docket"
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:32 PM
13 hrs ago

Maybe they should have a "self-evident" docket. The slang name would be the "no duh" docket.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
32. Why would anyone wait until election day to use a mail in ballot?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:45 AM
14 hrs ago

They are sent out weeks ahead of time.

SSJVegeta

(3,440 posts)
34. The undersranding used to be because it would be counted and also because things change dramatically (esp in primaries)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:56 AM
13 hrs ago

Before election day. But in general elections quite frankly, people need to turn that thing in as soon as they get it. And also theres a good chance the government will do everything they can to not count our votes so sooner is always better no matter what at this point.

Soul_of_Wit

(209 posts)
39. An actual example usage of "procrastinate" from Merriam-Webster.com
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:21 PM
13 hrs ago
Natomas resident Sarah Arizaga, 46, wasn’t familiar with all of the candidates, so procrastinated on submitting her ballot until the final day.

standingtall

(3,203 posts)
42. Just more evidence to me the Supreme Court must be expanded
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:32 PM
13 hrs ago

Right decision yes, but 5-4 decision in a case that should've been 9-0 tells me everything I need yo know.

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