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BumRushDaShow

(157,029 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:42 AM Apr 2025

NIH director pushes back timeline for RFK Jr.'s autism answers

Source: CBS News

April 22, 2025 / 8:28 PM EDT


The head of the National Institutes of Health now says it could take until next year to get preliminary results from their new studies into autism, marking the latest delay to findings that Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had promised by September.

"We're going to get hopefully grants out the door by the end of the summer," NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya told reporters Tuesday. "And people will get to work. We'll have a major conference, with updates, within the next year."

Bhattacharya said it should still be considered "a very rapid study by NIH's normal standards," saying that the institute was working to "cut the red tape without cutting the rigor" in launching their new research grants. "It's hard to guarantee when science will make an advance. It depends on, you know, nature has its say," Bhattacharya said.

Kennedy earlier this month pledged that "by September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic, and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures." In an April 15 statement released by his department, Kennedy said "we expect to begin to have answers by September."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nih-director-pushes-back-timeline-rfk-jr-autism-answers/

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NIH director pushes back timeline for RFK Jr.'s autism answers (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 OP
"'cut the red tape without cutting the rigor'" RockCreek Apr 2025 #1
Or never. Javaman Apr 2025 #2
Of course let's disregard the numerous studies already conducted mdbl Apr 2025 #3
So the studies already conducted GusBob Apr 2025 #6
Why don't you do your own research, GusBob? yardwork Apr 2025 #10
The autism moms - in MAHA womanofthehills Apr 2025 #16
And that is nonsense that has been debunked. yardwork Apr 2025 #20
We need to be able to read the studies womanofthehills Apr 2025 #15
The studies are open to anyone to read. yardwork Apr 2025 #21
What's caused the epidemic is a broadening of the Phoenix61 Apr 2025 #4
The diagnosis changed from DSM 4 to DSM 5 womanofthehills Apr 2025 #18
I think you meant the top 25% as Asperger's is a less Phoenix61 Apr 2025 #24
Kennedy has his head up his ass. Just because we didn't have names for the conditions it doesn't mean they didn't exist. Walleye Apr 2025 #5
NIH-funded scientists were learning a lot about Alzheimer's disease. yardwork Apr 2025 #8
Yep, people work hard and study this stuff all their lives, there's no room for dilettantes Walleye Apr 2025 #12
There are hundreds of studies posted online of metal in the brains of those with Alzheimer's womanofthehills Apr 2025 #17
What absolute nonsense. yardwork Apr 2025 #7
Yes, it isn't science, and it's ludicrous that they're even pretending it is. It's pushing RW conspiracy theories and Karasu Apr 2025 #14
The contradiction is the hundreds of videos online womanofthehills Apr 2025 #19
There are thousands of legitimate autism studies. yardwork Apr 2025 #22
Vaccines creon Apr 2025 #9
The potential links have been studied and none found. yardwork Apr 2025 #11
Well if hundreds of online studies connect aluminum to Alzheimer's womanofthehills Apr 2025 #23
Kennedy's statements on autism have all been entirely pulled out of his ass. Martin68 Apr 2025 #13

RockCreek

(1,039 posts)
1. "'cut the red tape without cutting the rigor'"
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:48 AM
Apr 2025

Why do I think that means getting rid of privacy protection, consent, and ethical standards?

GusBob

(7,932 posts)
6. So the studies already conducted
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:15 AM
Apr 2025

Have they found the cause of autism? Or the path-physiology ?

There seems to be a bunch of rule outs ( like vax’s ) and a bunch of suggested related stuff.

Is it true 1 in 68 children born end up with a diagnosis of autism?

I think it’s genetic, but that can be proven , no?

yardwork

(67,282 posts)
10. Why don't you do your own research, GusBob?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:26 AM
Apr 2025

The many scientists doing legitimate scientific research into autism aren't posting on DU. They're working around the clock answering these questions - and now they're contending with the bullshit disruptions caused by this administration.

However, you are free to do lots of reading in PubMed. There are thousands of peer-reviewed journal articles on autism research. They include numerous studies looking into links to vaccines and other potential causes.

It is a flat out lie that science has ignored this. I don't know if RFK, Jr. is capable of understanding facts, though.

womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
16. The autism moms - in MAHA
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:51 PM
Apr 2025

Are posting hundreds of videos online. Videos of their kids being totally normal & often advanced- and then having seizures and regressing often immediately or a day or week after well baby visits.






womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
15. We need to be able to read the studies
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:44 PM
Apr 2025

Because there now is so much contraction in research studies if you search online. Plus the autism moms say - their “observation videos of their kids before & after” - (these videos are growing online) need to be taken into account.








yardwork

(67,282 posts)
21. The studies are open to anyone to read.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:31 PM
Apr 2025

Go to PubMed and read to your heart's content.

Question for you. Why do you believe RFK, Jr.'s lies instead of the decades of peer-reviewed science? There are well-respected autism organizations. I belong to them. Why don't you?

Phoenix61

(18,485 posts)
4. What's caused the epidemic is a broadening of the
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:56 AM
Apr 2025

diagnosis from Autism to Autism Spectrum Disorder. When Autism was first recognized as a disorder only those diagnosed currently as Level 3 would have met the criteria for the diagnosis. Asperger’s and Level 1 and Level 2 Autism diagnosis would have fallen under something else or not had any diagnosis at all.

womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
18. The diagnosis changed from DSM 4 to DSM 5
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:11 PM
Apr 2025

In DSM 4 - Asperger’s was a separate condition of higher functioning kids than autism kids.

DSM 5 - changed this and put the higher functioning Asperger kids into the same category as the 25% lowest functioning autism kids. So Asbergers became autism.

Walleye

(41,481 posts)
5. Kennedy has his head up his ass. Just because we didn't have names for the conditions it doesn't mean they didn't exist.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:52 AM
Apr 2025

My grandmother died of Alzheimer’s. It’s obvious that’s what it was, but they didn’t call it that back then, they had no name for it. Medicine has made so many advances in the last couple of decades. I hate to see it screwed up like this.

yardwork

(67,282 posts)
8. NIH-funded scientists were learning a lot about Alzheimer's disease.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:21 AM
Apr 2025

Musk and RFK, Jr. demolished it.

Now they'll say "surprise! It was all vaccines!"

And by the time their followers realize his wrong they are they'll be gone.

Walleye

(41,481 posts)
12. Yep, people work hard and study this stuff all their lives, there's no room for dilettantes
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:43 AM
Apr 2025

womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
17. There are hundreds of studies posted online of metal in the brains of those with Alzheimer's
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:03 PM
Apr 2025

3 studies of hundreds online

“ Heavy metals exposure and Alzheimer’s disease: Underlying mechanisms and advancing therapeutic approaches”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166432824003681

“Aluminum and its potential contribution to Alzheimer's disease (AD) “. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3986683/

“Role of metals in Alzheimer's disease”. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34313926/




yardwork

(67,282 posts)
7. What absolute nonsense.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:19 AM
Apr 2025

The NIH has been finding legitimate research into autism for decades. Musk and RFK, Jr. disrupted all those studies.

Now they claim they're putting them back and "we'll have an answer by September." Science doesn't work that way.

Some bullshit report will be released blaming autism on vaccines. Because that's what RFK, Jr.'s drug-addled brain thinks the answer should be.

This isn't science.

Karasu

(1,668 posts)
14. Yes, it isn't science, and it's ludicrous that they're even pretending it is. It's pushing RW conspiracy theories and
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:05 PM
Apr 2025

nothing more. The outcome was determined before the start. That's the entire reason they're even doing this.

It's all theatrics to "legitimize" the vaccine narrative. Everyone with a brain fucking knows as much.

The problem, however, is that too many people in this country are scientifically illiterate as fuck.

womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
19. The contradiction is the hundreds of videos online
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:17 PM
Apr 2025

Made by parents of autistic kids - showing their kids before and after well baby visits. Go search autism videos of kids.

NIH funded studies looking for a genetic connection according to some news sites this week. All we need to do is see those studies.

creon

(1,755 posts)
9. Vaccines
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:25 AM
Apr 2025

Vaccines have nothing to do autism.

There was a time when betteheim argued that "bad parenting" caused Autism.
Now, vaccines are accused.

Vaccines have nothing to do with Autism.

yardwork

(67,282 posts)
11. The potential links have been studied and none found.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:28 AM
Apr 2025

I think it's possible that nanoparticles of plastic might be causing some neurological issues, though.

Of course TrumpCo will not want that studied.

womanofthehills

(10,040 posts)
23. Well if hundreds of online studies connect aluminum to Alzheimer's
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:35 PM
Apr 2025

And the dead virus vaccines (unlike live virus vaccines like MMR) - DTaP Hep A, Hep B, Flu, polio, etc need aluminum as an adjuvant to make vaccine work - who knows?? If there is no aluminum you will get no antibodies.

This is concerning- petitions have been submitted about this and Aaron Seri -top vaccine injury lawyer has been discussing this study on social media podcasts.

“A team of aluminum experts at Keele University – led by Christopher Exley, a Professor of Bioinorganic Chemistry for the last 29 years with over 200 published peer reviewed articles regarding aluminum – has found that six childhood vaccines contain a statistically significant greater quantity of aluminum adjuvant than is provided for on these products’ labeling (Pentacel, Havrix, Adacel, Pedvax, Prevnar 13, and Vaqta) while four childhood vaccines contain a statistically significant lower quantity of aluminum adjuvant than is provided for on the labeling for these products (Infanrix, Kinrix, Pediarix,

https://icandecide.org/article/aluminum-in-childhood-vaccines/





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