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BumRushDaShow

(154,084 posts)
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:46 AM May 4

Trump, asked if he has to 'uphold the Constitution,' says, 'I don't know'

Source: NBC News

May 4, 2025, 9:00 AM EDT / Updated May 4, 2025, 9:44 AM EDT


President Donald Trump argued in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that fulfilling his ambitious campaign promise to rapidly carry out mass deportations may take precedence over giving immigrants the right to due process under the Constitution, as required by courts. A central part of Trump’s agenda has been implementing the “largest deportation operation” in U.S. history, as he vowed during the 2024 campaign. In service of that goal, his administration has pressed the courts to allow the immediate removal of immigrants it accuses of being members of a Venezuelan gang, without giving them a chance to plead their case before a judge.

In an interview last month with “Meet the Press,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, “Yes, of course,” when asked whether every person in the United States is entitled to due process. Trump, however, isn’t so sure. “I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know,” Trump replied when asked by “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker whether he agreed with Rubio. His comments came during a wide-ranging interview at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, which aired Sunday.

The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment says “no person” shall be “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”; it does not say that person must be a U.S. citizen, and the Supreme Court has long recognized that noncitizens have certain basic rights. Trump has also said that while “we always have to obey the laws,” he would like to see some “homegrown criminals” sent to El Salvador as well, a proposal that was widely panned by legal experts.

When Welker tried to point out what the Fifth Amendment said, Trump suggested that such a process would slow him down too much. “I don’t know. It seems — it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials,” he said. “We have thousands of people that are — some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.” “I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it,” he added.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-asked-uphold-constitution-says-dont-know-rcna204580



Article II

Section 1.

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

(snip)

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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Trump, asked if he has to 'uphold the Constitution,' says, 'I don't know' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 4 OP
Perhaps we should make it a requirement piddyprints May 4 #1
Maybe demented presidents should have to take the oath every day milestogo May 4 #2
"take the oath"... Donald refused to place his hand on the Bible this time. Norrrm May 4 #30
But the Bible means as little to him as the Constitution milestogo May 4 #34
Fact Marvin Jones May 4 #3
I think he's basing everything around slightlv May 4 #33
"I don't know" he knows goddamn well what he is doing Klarkashton May 4 #4
We do need a knowledgeable President. republianmushroom May 4 #5
Education Iamscrewed May 4 #6
Of Course Trump doesn't believe it MissouriDem47 May 4 #7
I propose that jayschool2013 May 4 #8
He can always claim a 'to the best of my ability' loophole... SeattleVet May 4 #9
Oath of office? What oath? Sneederbunk May 4 #10
This little thing? Botany May 4 #18
he swore to uphold the constitution and he isnt and there is no consequence Fullduplexxx May 4 #11
That means he's not going to IronLionZion May 4 #12
He didn't put his hand on the bible, so he'll claim his oath doesn't count JoseBalow May 4 #13
You are probably right odins folly May 4 #28
drumpf exists in a perpetual state of plausible deniability JoseBalow May 4 #29
Time to Impeach him. Onthefly May 4 #14
Nah, since the GOP on the Hill is fine with deporting US citizens, criminals, rapists, and such without due process... Attilatheblond May 4 #17
Perfect. That's a quick and simple solution. Gang connection to MAGA. Onthefly May 4 #35
When trump took the oath of office at the inauguration, he didn't put his hand on the bible. BComplex May 4 #15
" A central part of Trump's agenda has been implementing the "largest deportation operation" in U.S. history" MLWR May 4 #16
Oh, he knows all right. As long as the Constitution doesn't interfere with what he wants to do, he's fine with it. Martin68 May 4 #19
Remember - this orange stain didn't put his hand on the bible SpankMe May 4 #20
We all know what he means Zorro May 4 #21
to the best of my ability patphil May 4 #22
That was my thought as well BumRushDaShow May 4 #23
trump took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes due process LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #24
About oaths being taken: SupportSanity May 4 #25
"They take oaths with their fingers crossed behind their backs. " BumRushDaShow May 4 #26
We assume they were bibles.... SupportSanity May 4 #36
Well it doesn't have to be done with a "Christian Bible" BumRushDaShow May 4 #37
Trump is a useful idiot, nothing more, nothing less Deminpenn May 4 #27
Trump's defense Zorro May 4 #31
sounds like another article of impeachment to me LymphocyteLover May 4 #32
The Constitution requires due process and the SCOTUS has unanimously ruled that due process is required LetMyPeopleVote May 4 #38
The Presidential Oath; you Fucktard! 🤬 electric_blue68 May 5 #39
Maddow Blog-'I don't know': The problem with Trump leaning into his new favorite phrase LetMyPeopleVote May 8 #40

piddyprints

(14,962 posts)
1. Perhaps we should make it a requirement
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:49 AM
May 4

of any candidate for office that they understand the oath they're taking? While they're at it, maybe provide proof that they know what the Constitution says?

milestogo

(20,771 posts)
2. Maybe demented presidents should have to take the oath every day
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:52 AM
May 4

or not be allowed in office at all.

slightlv

(5,719 posts)
33. I think he's basing everything around
Sun May 4, 2025, 06:31 PM
May 4

not only P2025, but also the old Articles of Confederation... although, to be honest, I need to find a copy of those on the web and read through them. I don't quite remember what all they guaranteed from my early high school years... the memory marbles are a little jangled on all that at this stage! But, with the emphasis on Jim Crow 2.0 and Nazi-ism being rampant, that's where my mind goes, anyway.

Klarkashton

(3,474 posts)
4. "I don't know" he knows goddamn well what he is doing
Sun May 4, 2025, 11:06 AM
May 4

He's stonewalling because he is losing. He is deathly afraid of losing in the eyes of Fred Trump.

MissouriDem47

(173 posts)
7. Of Course Trump doesn't believe it
Sun May 4, 2025, 11:46 AM
May 4

On 1/6/21 Trump instigated an attack on Congress which proves he does not believe in the US Constitution.

jayschool2013

(2,587 posts)
8. I propose that
Sun May 4, 2025, 11:46 AM
May 4

any person convicted in a U.S. court of law of exactly 34 crimes (no more, no fewer) be immediately sent to CECOT.

Do I hear a second?

SeattleVet

(5,691 posts)
9. He can always claim a 'to the best of my ability' loophole...
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
May 4

since he has absolutely NO ability whatsoever.

Botany

(74,357 posts)
18. This little thing?
Sun May 4, 2025, 01:07 PM
May 4

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Fullduplexxx

(8,483 posts)
11. he swore to uphold the constitution and he isnt and there is no consequence
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:26 PM
May 4

what's the point of anyone taking that oath ever again -

yea i solemnly swear to but fuck that if i change my mind ?

it's a useless oath and it should never be administered again

IronLionZion

(49,074 posts)
12. That means he's not going to
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:32 PM
May 4

he knows, he just doesn't want to. And who is going to hold him accountable?

JoseBalow

(7,646 posts)
13. He didn't put his hand on the bible, so he'll claim his oath doesn't count
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:49 PM
May 4

Grifter is always trying to work a loophole.

odins folly

(383 posts)
28. You are probably right
Sun May 4, 2025, 04:22 PM
May 4

But there is no requirement to place your hand on anything. And yet every time someone didn't use the Bible, they were vilified for some shit or another....

JoseBalow

(7,646 posts)
29. drumpf exists in a perpetual state of plausible deniability
Sun May 4, 2025, 04:26 PM
May 4

It's his default position on everything.

Attilatheblond

(6,161 posts)
17. Nah, since the GOP on the Hill is fine with deporting US citizens, criminals, rapists, and such without due process...
Sun May 4, 2025, 01:06 PM
May 4

lets just start at the top.

BComplex

(9,444 posts)
15. When trump took the oath of office at the inauguration, he didn't put his hand on the bible.
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:55 PM
May 4

If Obama had done that, there would have been a media riot.

MLWR

(357 posts)
16. " A central part of Trump's agenda has been implementing the "largest deportation operation" in U.S. history"
Sun May 4, 2025, 12:56 PM
May 4

It may have been the "largest deportation operation in U.S. history." It was also the most ILLEGAL deportation operation in U.S. history.

Martin68

(25,900 posts)
19. Oh, he knows all right. As long as the Constitution doesn't interfere with what he wants to do, he's fine with it.
Sun May 4, 2025, 01:12 PM
May 4

SpankMe

(3,486 posts)
20. Remember - this orange stain didn't put his hand on the bible
Sun May 4, 2025, 01:13 PM
May 4

During his inaugural swearing in, the Orange Asshole ® didn't put his hand on thee bible. That'll be the right's get-out-of-jail-free card when they admit that they he won't uphold and defend the constitution.

patphil

(7,918 posts)
22. to the best of my ability
Sun May 4, 2025, 01:42 PM
May 4

Well, there's a built-in excuse for him not protecting and defending the Constitution.
He completely lacks the ability to follow the rule of law, and/or do the honorable thing.

SupportSanity

(1,447 posts)
25. About oaths being taken:
Sun May 4, 2025, 03:45 PM
May 4

They take oaths with their fingers crossed behind their backs.

How many oaths have been broken since Trump?

And don't forget the Supreme Court oaths.

BumRushDaShow

(154,084 posts)
26. "They take oaths with their fingers crossed behind their backs. "
Sun May 4, 2025, 03:57 PM
May 4

In this case, Melania became a mannequin with a modified Hooded Claw hat, holding 2 Bibles that were not even touched by him during the oath -

Deminpenn

(16,816 posts)
27. Trump is a useful idiot, nothing more, nothing less
Sun May 4, 2025, 04:03 PM
May 4

He's easily manipulated by the likes of Stephen Miller, Russell Vought and the billionares who bought and paid for him via campaign cash and other quid pro quos involving large sums of money benefitting Trump. Suzie Wilds, the chief of staff, is there to keep the reins on Trump and in the dark lest he go off and upset the apple cart.

Zorro

(17,514 posts)
31. Trump's defense
Sun May 4, 2025, 06:00 PM
May 4

"I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution 'to the best of my ability'. Well, I just don't have any ability to uphold the Constitution. So there! Live with it, suckers -- that's what you voted for!"

LetMyPeopleVote

(164,412 posts)
38. The Constitution requires due process and the SCOTUS has unanimously ruled that due process is required
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:37 PM
May 4

trump is listening to idiots if he thinks that he can ignore due process. trump swore and oath to defend the Constitution and so far the courts are consistent in ruling that the Constitution requires due process

BREAKING: Trump says on Meet The Press that he doesn't know if everyone deserves due process.

When asked if he has to uphold the Constitution, he says "I don't know, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me."

This should be an IMPEACHABLE defense. Who agrees?

Krassensteins (@krassenstein.bsky.social) 2025-05-04T14:04:55.229Z



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-asked-uphold-constitution-says-dont-know-rcna204580

The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment says “no person” shall be “deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”; it does not say that person must be a U.S. citizen, and the Supreme Court has long recognized that noncitizens have certain basic rights. Trump has also said that while “we always have to obey the laws,” he would like to see some “homegrown criminals” sent to El Salvador as well, a proposal that was widely panned by legal experts.

When Welker tried to point out what the Fifth Amendment said, Trump suggested that such a process would slow him down too much.

“I don’t know. It seems — it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials,” he said. “We have thousands of people that are — some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.”

“I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it,” he added.

“But even given those numbers that you’re talking about, don’t you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?” Welker asked.

“I don’t know,” Trump replied. “I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.”

The Supreme Court has already made it clear to the Trump administration in three different recent decisions that it has to allow basic due process rights for immigrants based on the long-standing understanding of the laws.

That would not require full trials, as Trump suggested. What it would require is the chance to appear before an immigration judge. Such judges are not part of the judicial branch; they are employees of the Justice Department. Administration officials have spoken out against such constraints, leading to allegations that they have defied instructions from lower court judges and even the Supreme Court.

electric_blue68

(21,677 posts)
39. The Presidential Oath; you Fucktard! 🤬
Mon May 5, 2025, 01:17 AM
May 5

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

LetMyPeopleVote

(164,412 posts)
40. Maddow Blog-'I don't know': The problem with Trump leaning into his new favorite phrase
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:32 PM
May 8

It’s worth appreciating not just how many times the president has said “I don’t know” in recent days, but also the scope of his apparent cluelessness.

So far this week, Trump has said "I don't know" in response to questions about:
- sending migrants to Libya
- due process
- upholding the Constitution
- interactions with El Salvador
- tariff exceptions
- JD Vance's line on Russia's war demands
The cluelessness matters. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-08T12:58:09.974Z

So far this week, Trump has said "I don't know" in response to questions about:
- sending migrants to Libya
- due process
- upholding the Constitution
- interactions with El Salvador
- tariff exceptions
- JD Vance's line on Russia's war demands
The cluelessness matters



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/-dont-know-problem-trump-leaning-new-favorite-phrase-rcna205546

It was against this backdrop that Trump was asked a straightforward question about the story. The New Republic noted:

Donald Trump says he doesn’t know whether he plans to deport hundreds of immigrants to Libya, amidst reports that his administration will do so as soon as Wednesday. “Is the administration sending migrants to Libya?” Trump was asked during a press conference Wednesday afternoon. “I don’t know,” he responded. “You’ll have to ask the Department of Homeland Security.


While it was certainly possible that the president was simply lying about what he knew, at face value, it appeared that the Republican was simply unaware of what his own administration was up to.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lolxlhitki2e



.....On Sunday, for example, NBC News aired Trump’s latest appearance on “Meet the Press.” When host Kristen Welker asked whether everyone in the United States is entitled to due process, the president replied, “I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know.” When Welker reminded her guest about the Fifth Amendment, Trump again said, “I don’t know.”

As part of the same exchange, Welker went on to say, “[D]on’t you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?” Once again, Trump answered, “I don’t know.”

As the interview continued, the host asked whether anyone in his administration is in contact with El Salvador about returning Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States. “I don’t know,” the president said. “You’d have to ask the attorney general that question......

What’s more, most objective observers would probably agree that if Joe Biden repeatedly said, “I don’t know” in response to simple questions about his own administration, it would be front-page news — and the Democrat’s responses would be played on a loop, for hours on end, in conservative media.

Similarly, Trump has personally invested considerable time and energy into accusing Biden of being a doddering old “autopen” president who was unaware of events unfolding around him. Given the frequency with which the Republican clings to “I don’t know” responses, he might need a new line of attack.

Finally, let’s not overlook the fact that Trump’s authoritarian-style tendencies are rooted, at least in part, in the idea governmental power must be concentrated and put in his hands, to be executed as he sees fit.

It makes the president’s apparent cluelessness that much more alarming.
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