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BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:42 AM 10 hrs ago

'Very bad idea': Republicans revolt over Trump scheme to get $400 million plane from Qatar

Source: Raw Story

May 11, 2025 3:43PM ET


ABC News on Sunday reported President Donald Trump is poised to accept “what may be the most valuable gift ever extended to the United States from a foreign government” — “a super luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar” to be used “as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation.”

According to ABC News, “the gift is expected to be announced next week” after “lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library.”

As AlterNet reported Sunday, the proposed gift — which aviation industry experts told ABC is estimated to value "about $400 million” — stunned Democrats and journalists alike. But, as news of the plane plan proliferated on social media Sunday, even some Republicans were concerned about conflicts of interest arising from the proposal.

“I’m sure the podcasters who are deeply alarmed by foreign influence will be all over this,” National Review editor Philip Klein wrote Sunday on X. “Call me a crazy RINO neocon, but I think it’s bad for the President of the United States to accept a $400 million ‘gift’ from an Islamist regime that funds terrorist organizations that murder Americans,” conservative writer and podcast host Ian Haworth argued. Conservative radio host Erick Erickson agreed.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-gop-bad-idea-qatar/



Took some time to sink in to the hypocritical GOP because IOKIYAR.

Article II

Section 1.

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

(snip)

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
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'Very bad idea': Republicans revolt over Trump scheme to get $400 million plane from Qatar (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago OP
An impeachable violation of the Constitutuon. benfranklin1776 9 hrs ago #1
Yes and thank you BumRushDaShow 1 hr ago #15
Grifters gonna grift Deminpenn 8 hrs ago #2
I've flown a simulator of a 747 Layzeebeaver 8 hrs ago #3
My very first (and only so far) flight on a 747 BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #4
When I lived in Europe COL Mustard 7 hrs ago #5
My very first plane trip was on a 707 from Philly to London back in 1970 BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #7
The biggest, most beautiful, plane... forgotmylogin 5 min ago #16
I'm sure they're very "concerned." But they won't tell him not to do it. Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #6
There's A LOT of "back-tracking" going on at the moment BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago #8
Sad that it's Qatar and not our own lawmakers. Scrivener7 6 hrs ago #10
Revolt?!? ROFLMFAO!! You milque toast fuckers have done NOTHING to stop this NAZI Bengus81 6 hrs ago #9
Finally took a ride in his Tesla and the doors wouldn't open when it caught fire. twodogsbarking 5 hrs ago #11
This is their bridge too far? live love laugh 2 hrs ago #12
But that's his bribe, silly me, not bribe but tip. republianmushroom 2 hrs ago #13
It's only a bad idea Mz Pip 2 hrs ago #14

benfranklin1776

(6,824 posts)
1. An impeachable violation of the Constitutuon.
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:56 AM
9 hrs ago

Under the section you cite and also Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution:

[N]o Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

It seems the framers damn well intended that a President could not sell himself and the country down the proverbial river to foreign kings and potentates given their bitter experience with Benedict Arnold. 🤬

Since it’s clear that Congress has the exclusive power to approve or disapprove of such naked gift bribery, tomorrow we need to introduce a bill expressly barring such a gift to Benedict Donold and put his Rethuglican enablers feet to the fire on whether they will approve such criminality. Toothless public statements of “disapproval” and “concern” are not enough. Make them prove it with a vote.

Moreover this appears to be criminally prosecutable as well if he pushes ahead with it, since receiving bribes is outside of the President’s “core powers”under Roberts own a-textual, gratuitous and BS immunity test 😡

BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
15. Yes and thank you
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:37 PM
1 hr ago

I also have the link saved in a text file with a previous post on this subject and what happened in the SCOTUS with his past emoluments infractions - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3178598

(didn't get chance to dig that up - have been multitasking doing judge research in between - completing my PA mail ballot to send in today! )

Layzeebeaver

(1,937 posts)
3. I've flown a simulator of a 747
Mon May 12, 2025, 05:46 AM
8 hrs ago

a proper full emersion. actual cockpit with projection through the windscreen.

It was a pile of shite. like lifting weights for 30 minutes, thank heavens for the auto pilot functions.

later, we (my wife and I) flew the Airbus 320 simulator. OMG it was a sports car compared to the 747.

That said, he doesn't deserve it. Impeach him...

BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
4. My very first (and only so far) flight on a 747
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:34 AM
7 hrs ago

(as most of my long hauls have been on wide-bodies like L-1011s or 767s) was to Cairo, Egypt on EgyptAir over 30 years ago. The flights within the country were all Airbus-manufactured planes.

What shocked me about it compared to the wide-bodies, was how LONG it was! Felt like it was a block long and couldn't see the rear of the plane from the front (plus of course the 2nd level, although that was always something promoted about them ).

COL Mustard

(7,375 posts)
5. When I lived in Europe
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:41 AM
7 hrs ago

The 747 was the go-to across the Atlantic. I flew to Germany a couple of times on an L-1011 but preferred a 747. The last time I flew on an L-1011 I was in the middle seat of a 3-6-3 arrangement. Not comfortable.

BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
7. My very first plane trip was on a 707 from Philly to London back in 1970
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:05 AM
7 hrs ago

It was on the old Caledonian Airways. It was right around the time when they were merging with British United Airways but the planes still had the old logos.

I STILL have my flight bag from them (back when everyone got "free stuff" on flights)!!

Looks like this -



My first L-1011 flight was from Philly to Orlando (Disney World trip in 1975, a couple years after the park opened, then the 2nd leg a few days later was to Nassau, Bahamas). They were used by the now defunct Eastern Airlines (where you got more "free stuff" - some plastic "pilots' wings" ). That looked like this -

forgotmylogin

(7,841 posts)
16. The biggest, most beautiful, plane...
Mon May 12, 2025, 02:02 PM
5 min ago

I bet it takes a whole lot of extra fuel to get that juggernaut up into the air so he can feel like he's in a penthouse palace while commuting to his golf course every weekend.

BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
8. There's A LOT of "back-tracking" going on at the moment
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:10 AM
6 hrs ago

notably by Qatar, who just created an outrageous mess.

It was probably supposed to be a "hush hush" thing and the child went blabbing all around about it as usual.

Bengus81

(8,775 posts)
9. Revolt?!? ROFLMFAO!! You milque toast fuckers have done NOTHING to stop this NAZI
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:21 AM
6 hrs ago

and you won't now. Oh my...is this supposed to be stronger than "concerned"??

twodogsbarking

(13,594 posts)
11. Finally took a ride in his Tesla and the doors wouldn't open when it caught fire.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:26 AM
5 hrs ago

An orange smoke cloud indicated that the poop has died.

Mz Pip

(28,078 posts)
14. It's only a bad idea
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:48 AM
2 hrs ago

because it’s so blatant. All the behind the scenes grift is just fine with them.

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