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BumRushDaShow

(152,153 posts)
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:50 AM 9 hrs ago

Birthright citizenship debate erupts as Supreme Court arguments near

Source: msn/The Hill

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President Trump’s efforts to upend the conventional understanding of birthright citizenship heads to the Supreme Court this week, the first time in his second term that the justices will consider a major administrative action from the bench.

The justices won’t be directly addressing the constitutionality of Trump’s order blocking automatic citizenship for children born on U.S. soil to noncitizens, for now. The administration has so far only asked the justices to narrow the nationwide reach of several district judges’ injunctions, contending they went too far.

But the case has already invigorated a debate on the legal right about whether the president’s shake-up is valid. Trump suddenly disrupted the status quo on his first day back in office. He issued an executive order that would restrict birthright citizenship for children born on U.S. soil whose parents don’t have permanent legal status. He promised such action on the campaign trail.

The order has been challenged in 10 different lawsuits, several of which are now before the Supreme Court on its emergency docket.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/birthright-citizenship-debate-erupts-as-supreme-court-arguments-near/ar-AA1EzLFe

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Birthright citizenship debate erupts as Supreme Court arguments near (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 9 hrs ago OP
He has to be careful of his wording because he might make Barron a noncitizen Walleye 8 hrs ago #1
Dont think its retroactive SSJVegeta 7 hrs ago #2
I was thinking the same thing, and what about all the babies born while they're arguing about it? Walleye 7 hrs ago #3
So do we States Rights or Not? JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #4
More of the MAGA style guide: "the conventional understanding" PSPS 5 hrs ago #5
That has been around since ancient times RainCaster 3 hrs ago #6

Walleye

(40,067 posts)
3. I was thinking the same thing, and what about all the babies born while they're arguing about it?
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:20 AM
7 hrs ago

JustAnotherGen

(34,889 posts)
4. So do we States Rights or Not?
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:06 AM
7 hrs ago

Because if we are doing this state by state, I've got a trade deal to negotiate with the EU and New Jersey.

These maga Repubs better be careful what they wish for.

The administration has so far only asked the justices to narrow the nationwide reach of several district judges’ injunctions, contending they went too far.

PSPS

(14,530 posts)
5. More of the MAGA style guide: "the conventional understanding"
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:58 AM
5 hrs ago

This is classic incrementalism. Sow doubt on the obvious meaning & intent of things like the constitution. Kind of like "the conventional understanding" of the second amendment.

RainCaster

(12,808 posts)
6. That has been around since ancient times
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:18 AM
3 hrs ago

Trump's weasely lawyers try to argue that birthright citizenship is a recent invention of the US. It's not, it's been a part of citizenship law since ancient times.

Birthright citizenship was a thing in Roman times, and is recorded in the Bible.

Acts 22:27-28 So the commander went over and asked Paul, “Tell me, are you a Roman citizen?”
“Yes, I certainly am,” Paul replied.
“I am, too,” the commander muttered, “and it cost me plenty!”
Paul answered, “But I am a citizen by birth!”
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