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highplainsdem

(56,538 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:10 PM May 15

DHS asks for 20,000 National Guard troops to assist in deportations

Source: NPR

The Department of Homeland Security is asking the Pentagon to provide some 20,000 National Guard forces to assist in the removal of migrants in the United States without legal status.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the plan who was not authorized to talk tells NPR that military lawyers are reviewing the request from DHS. The request was first reported by The New York Times.

Under the proposal, state governors would be asked for volunteers among their Guard forces to take part in the removals. There's no word on when this would happen, or when the call would go out for volunteers.

There's also no sense at this point what role the Guard troops would play — whether they would provide just transportation or security, or if they would detain migrants or take part in arrests. In February, Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott gave Texas Guard members the authority to make immigration arrests. This would be the first time Guard troops at the national level have been asked to assist in deportations. President Trump last week ordered DHS to increase its deportation force by 20,000 officers. Using Guard forces would be the quickest way to make that happen.

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Read more: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/15/nx-s1-5399656/national-guard-immigration

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DHS asks for 20,000 National Guard troops to assist in deportations (Original Post) highplainsdem May 15 OP
Guard members ordered to control a looked-down-upon throng of people. John1956PA May 15 #1
Four dead in Ohio Walleye May 15 #4
What they want is for the deport to be handled as roughly and cruelly as possible Walleye May 15 #2
How much is Traildogbob May 15 #3
Does anyone know: can a governor refuse a request for troops? If the Pres federalizes troops, does that mean the Feds LauraInLA May 15 #5
I'm betting Trump thinks the tab will be on the states MadameButterfly May 16 #20
Governors cannot refuse if its a Title 10 deployment DetroitLegalBeagle May 16 #26
Noem needs to be told to kacekwl May 15 #6
I say, you shut off FEMA and medicaid, to states you get bluestarone May 15 #7
If states are paying for disaster recovery and medical care MadameButterfly May 16 #21
Ahh more jobs will be available, usually well paying jobs. LiberalArkie May 15 #8
Volunteers? Iamscrewed May 15 #9
I missed the implication of "volunteers" MadameButterfly May 16 #22
Volunteers Iamscrewed May 16 #29
Yes I read the article. It doesn't specify MadameButterfly May 17 #31
No Cirsium May 15 #10
The slippery slope... purr-rat beauty May 15 #11
Fuckin' Nazis. 🖕 Magoo48 May 15 #12
Oh hell, NO!!! Delmette2.0 May 16 #13
8,000 non-citizens join US military each year Seinan Sensei May 16 #14
I foresee recruitment issues with the National Guard perdita9 May 16 #15
So you don't think there are 20,000 indecent people in the Guard? malthaussen May 16 #19
There will be 20,000 willing to do it MadameButterfly May 16 #23
I expect California's National Guard will be needed to fight fires after these travelingthrulife May 16 #16
Yeah but the immigrants are an emergency MadameButterfly May 16 #24
They can hardly even find anyone to deport legally. This is just a huge waste of money. travelingthrulife May 16 #17
They've been scraping the bottom of the barrel MadameButterfly May 16 #25
Volunteers, eh? Good way to find out who the bigots are and recruit them for more mayhem. malthaussen May 16 #18
So a type of impressment JustAnotherGen May 16 #27
This will cause problems for Guardsmen who didn't signup for ...... Bread and Circuses May 16 #28
anything that gets military in the streets stillcool May 16 #30

John1956PA

(4,135 posts)
1. Guard members ordered to control a looked-down-upon throng of people.
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:17 PM
May 15

What could possibly go wrong?

Walleye

(40,836 posts)
2. What they want is for the deport to be handled as roughly and cruelly as possible
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:30 PM
May 15

Then they can make videos and Maga can jack off to them

Traildogbob

(11,265 posts)
3. How much is
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:31 PM
May 15

Rambo Barbie gonna spend for her little action movie photo ops and compensation job to make up for puppy killing thrills?

LauraInLA

(2,085 posts)
5. Does anyone know: can a governor refuse a request for troops? If the Pres federalizes troops, does that mean the Feds
Thu May 15, 2025, 05:35 PM
May 15

have to pay for them?

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
20. I'm betting Trump thinks the tab will be on the states
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 16

but I expect it won't be.

If the states can/do say no I'm sure Trump has some revenge lined up.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,379 posts)
26. Governors cannot refuse if its a Title 10 deployment
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:06 PM
May 16

Title 10 transfers authority over to the Feds. It also transfers the financial burden to the Feds as well.

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
21. If states are paying for disaster recovery and medical care
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:51 PM
May 16

who says they still have money for a national guard?

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
22. I missed the implication of "volunteers"
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:51 PM
May 16

Does that mean willing to do it for pay, or willing to do it for free?

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
31. Yes I read the article. It doesn't specify
Sat May 17, 2025, 05:52 PM
May 17

Whether they would get paid.
It's my understanding the soldiers in the National Guard get paid.

See below 2 different definitions of volunteer:

a person who voluntarily undertakes or expresses a willingness to undertake a service: such as. a. : one who enters into military service voluntarily

Volunteering is when someone spends unpaid time doing something to benefit others

Seinan Sensei

(991 posts)
14. 8,000 non-citizens join US military each year
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:31 AM
May 16

Soooooo … noncitizens arresting noncitizens?

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48163#

Btw
In FY 2024, we naturalized more than 16,290 service members

perdita9

(1,265 posts)
15. I foresee recruitment issues with the National Guard
Fri May 16, 2025, 06:17 AM
May 16

If Trump is going to turn them into the Gestapo, decent people won't sign up

malthaussen

(18,104 posts)
19. So you don't think there are 20,000 indecent people in the Guard?
Fri May 16, 2025, 11:59 AM
May 16

I am of the contrary opinion.

-- Mal

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
23. There will be 20,000 willing to do it
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:54 PM
May 16

But National Guards will be smaller overall
And we might not like the ones who sign up

travelingthrulife

(2,528 posts)
16. I expect California's National Guard will be needed to fight fires after these
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:08 AM
May 16

monsters axed firefighting personnel.

travelingthrulife

(2,528 posts)
17. They can hardly even find anyone to deport legally. This is just a huge waste of money.
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:09 AM
May 16

If we don't have FEMA anymore, National Guard will be needed at home state.

MadameButterfly

(3,041 posts)
25. They've been scraping the bottom of the barrel
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:57 PM
May 16

in search of actual criminals. That is why they are deporting peaceful beloved long term members of communities and legal immigrants

malthaussen

(18,104 posts)
18. Volunteers, eh? Good way to find out who the bigots are and recruit them for more mayhem.
Fri May 16, 2025, 11:57 AM
May 16

Sadly, I doubt they'd have much trouble finding 20,000 volunteers among the Guard.

-- Mal

JustAnotherGen

(35,288 posts)
27. So a type of impressment
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:15 PM
May 16

Into the service of DHS in their fake war that SCOTUS just said they couldn't do?

So an intolerable act by a crazy despot? Hmmm . . .

Bread and Circuses

(793 posts)
28. This will cause problems for Guardsmen who didn't signup for ......
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:36 PM
May 16

Inflicting violence on random people.

Wll they refuse?

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