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BumRushDaShow

(153,816 posts)
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:34 PM May 18

FBI links California fertility clinic bombing to anti-natalist ideology

Source: NBC News

May 18, 2025, 11:29 AM EDT / Updated May 18, 2025, 1:45 PM EDT


The car bombing outside a California fertility clinic that killed one person and injured four others appears to have been driven by anti-natalist ideology, according to two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the incident.

The suspect, identified by authorities as Guy Edward Bartkus, is believed to have detonated the explosive in Saturday's attack, which claimed his own life.

Investigators are focusing on social media posts made by the suspect, including a 30-minute audio recording, which they say support anti-natalist views. While the posts and the recording are still being verified, officials believe they reflect the ideology behind the bombing. Anti-natalism refers to the belief that no one should have children.

The same person may also be linked to an online forum post from earlier this month in which the individual contemplated suicide using an explosive device, the sources said. They are also investigating a YouTube account, under the same moniker, that features videos of experiments with homemade explosives.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/palm-springs-fertility-clinic-bomb-anti-natalism-rcna207543

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RockRaven

(17,329 posts)
2. Do not trust the FBI's interpretation of publicly available information like social media
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:54 PM
May 18

posts when other entities' interpretations of the same information are also available.

One news outlet described the guy's posts as anti-natalist and anti-IVF. While the latter can certainly flow from the former, it is also possible for him to have been anti-IVF for a different or parallel reason, rather than the former causing the latter.

And the FBI has a reason to be selective in their interpretation and presentation of this guy's posts -- namely they are controlled by those who are in bed with Christian nationalists who are anti-IVF and some of whom have a history of terroristic violence.

AntiFascist

(13,299 posts)
9. The FBI lead kept calling his beliefs nihilist...
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:30 PM
May 18

but according to promortalism.com, his beliefs were the polar opposite of that.

Hekate

(97,925 posts)
4. I never knew ZPG to be violent, unless this is a person who followed algorithms into deep Hell
Sun May 18, 2025, 04:43 PM
May 18

PSPS

(14,578 posts)
6. Today's FBI is just a political tool to promote the trump agenda.
Sun May 18, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 18

While some or all of this may be true, it's no longer as reliable as it used to be. Sadly, our first assumption now has to be that any facts may be skewed or fabricated to further some political goal.

AZJonnie

(845 posts)
8. Totally agree with the skepticism above, I don't trust Patel's FBI one single bit.
Sun May 18, 2025, 04:56 PM
May 18

At the same time, I also don't think anyone should be making new people given the climate change situation. My attitude is much more peaceful about it though, I favor accomplishing it by means of education/information and perhaps a modicum of societal pressure.

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