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BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:27 AM May 23

'Sealed their fate': New memo shows Dems giddy over looming elections

Source: Raw Story

May 22, 2025 7:31PM ET


Democrats are already plotting to go on the offense over House Republicans' vote to pass President Donald Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

According to Punchbowl News' Max Cohen, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has already circulated a memo stating that the GOP's vote “will cost them their majority next year,” and that “No matter what happens in the Senate with respect to budget reconciliation, House Republicans have already sealed their political fate.”

This aligns with exclusive Raw Story reporting that Democrats are already strategizing on how to make Republicans pay for their vote. The GOP's counterparts at the National Republican Congressional Committee, meanwhile, are doing their best to flip the script, attacking Democrats who opposed the legislation as voting for “tax hikes, handouts to illegal immigrants, and open border chaos.”

The Republican bill, which came together haphazardly after weeks of impasse and faction-fighting, cuts hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicaid, food assistance, and green energy programs, along with a number of other items like ending the IRS' free tax filing service, prohibiting states from enforcing artificial intelligence regulations for a decade, and sharply limiting the ability of federal courts to civilly sanction Trump administration officials for contempt.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/house-democrats-2672190376/






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News in @PunchbowlNews PM: A DCCC memo predicts that House Rs voting for reconciliation “will cost them their majority next year.”

“No matter what happens in the Senate with respect to budget reconciliation, House Republicans have already sealed their political fate”
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'Sealed their fate': New memo shows Dems giddy over looming elections (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 23 OP
If there are elections. nt moniss May 23 #1
Exactly Jarqui May 23 #3
Trump already told the world that nobody was ever going to have to vote again, and that he didn't need them BComplex May 23 #32
2024 elections should prove that the were dirty Botany May 23 #56
I'm not "giddy" kentuck May 23 #2
No giddiness here, either. Hugin May 23 #4
Me neither... Mike 03 May 23 #7
agree scipan May 23 #42
I seem to recall an abortion ruling which was going to seal the fate of the GQP too...... groundloop May 23 #10
It's going to take a lot of hard work and leadership, "giddy" people need not apply FakeNoose May 23 #36
"Giddy" is Raw Story's headline,... LudwigPastorius May 23 #59
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." Ursus Rex May 23 #5
Democrats have to change their messages. Ojerly May 23 #6
Be careful, though. It's only a short drive from "giddy" to "cocky". Buns_of_Fire May 23 #8
Naturally, we all want them to be right. Mike 03 May 23 #9
Dem leaders are still feraking clueless about how all this works Miguelito Loveless May 23 #11
Bingo ML DENVERPOPS May 23 #46
As much as I would love to believe that was the case Miguelito Loveless May 27 #66
I guess we will just have to wait DENVERPOPS May 27 #67
Huh? Miguelito Loveless May 27 #68
"plotting to go on the offense" So a concept of a plan. Sounds fun. n/t flvegan May 23 #12
Does this mean they have found a way to make Fux Nooze report the truth? mdbl May 23 #13
"Dems giddy" travelingthrulife May 23 #14
It's so disgusting, isn't it. yardwork May 23 #17
Maybe they could put some effort into a unified message pimpbot May 23 #15
At this point, the only "unified message" must be "anger" BumRushDaShow May 23 #19
Yes, anger appeals to a LOT of folks, not just Democrats FakeNoose May 23 #39
Stage Presence Corktown May 23 #57
We need to hang trump around Republican's necks. Every bad vote. travelingthrulife May 24 #65
Counting your chickens before they hatch is never a smart thing to do. Autumn May 23 #16
I don't necessarily trust this report, but... yardwork May 23 #20
I think DNC only listens to a select few and expect all Democratic voters to go along. Autumn May 23 #21
I agree with you. It's not working and won't work in the future. yardwork May 23 #37
agreed DENVERPOPS May 23 #47
Giddy..... Hope22 May 23 #18
Shoulda defeated it. It was weak not to. We need a victory , not a "on the right side". mpcamb May 23 #53
Giddy means disaster without Giddy up. usonian May 23 #22
The DCCC is giddy? Who the hell can afford to be giddy KPN May 23 #23
The DCCC is giddy? Who in the hell can afford to be giddy KPN May 23 #24
Yeah, somehow I figured this would turn into a Democrat-bashing thread. Paladin May 23 #25
So we can stay off the streets, wait, be comfortable, and everything will be OK? hay rick May 23 #26
IOW - they are not acting NOW azureblue May 23 #27
Don't get too cocky. Mz Pip May 23 #28
Um, everyone realizes that "giddy" is Raw Story's spin, yes? EarlG May 23 #29
The Punchbowl article is paywalled BUT enough was visible to grab their link to the DCCC memo BumRushDaShow May 23 #31
Thanks! EarlG May 23 #44
I know Jeffries has been out there making comments - mostly on social media BumRushDaShow May 23 #54
See my response upthread. yardwork May 23 #38
*IF* we engage in an effective messaging campaign... CaptainTruth May 23 #30
FFS, 17 months away is not "looming", Rawstory. maxsolomon May 23 #33
OH HOLY SHIT!!! ECL213 May 23 #34
Here we go again sarisataka May 23 #35
The only people I saw calling 2024 in a landslide for Kamala were... LudwigPastorius May 23 #60
Don't count on winning until you have won kimbutgar May 23 #40
don't be fucking "giddy" attack and keep attacking until they say uncle. nt Javaman May 23 #41
Don't believe every headline you read either. LudwigPastorius May 23 #61
Hmmm, that's what I thought after overturning Marie Marie May 23 #43
Has anyone in this thread read the actual memo? EarlG May 23 #45
Pretty matter of fact SomedayKindaLove May 23 #49
We still need a message that resonates with the masses pfitz59 May 23 #48
Assuming orangecrush May 23 #50
I'm glad they're giddy choie May 23 #51
Oh look... another opportunity to shit on Democrats for being optimistic. Oopsie Daisy May 23 #52
Trump has been President for 4 months bronxiteforever May 23 #55
OPTIMISTIC Skittles May 23 #58
The only "fate" that's sealed is the fate of the '26 elections. Safe as Milk May 24 #62
The Dems better get their act together before they count their chickens Sessuch May 24 #63
"Democrats are already plotting to go on the offense..." OldBaldy1701E May 24 #64
We shall see in time if this happens. republianmushroom May 27 #69

Jarqui

(10,673 posts)
3. Exactly
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:36 AM
May 23

or end of elections as we currently understand them

If Trump removes contempt of court, it is a dictatorship
What stops him?

Martial law ... no election ...
or an election like they have in Russia
.. where only Republican appointees can count the ballots.

That has to be the end game with this bill

Unless something stops them, the democracy is over.

BComplex

(9,435 posts)
32. Trump already told the world that nobody was ever going to have to vote again, and that he didn't need them
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:42 PM
May 23

to vote. He said they already had the votes and that Elon rigged the computers to help him (and other republicans, I might add, but was not said by trump).

kentuck

(113,895 posts)
2. I'm not "giddy"
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:33 AM
May 23

The die has been cast. The propaganda is still in effect. Not much has changed, in my opinion, at this time. It should have but I don't I don't think it has.

Hugin

(36,160 posts)
4. No giddiness here, either.
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:40 AM
May 23

Belt tightening and pain are on the menu for the foreseeable future.

Mike 03

(18,467 posts)
7. Me neither...
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:12 AM
May 23

They are focused on the election as if it is some deux ex machina that is going to undo all the hopeless damage the MAGAs are doing right now; meanwhile, our efforts to effectively neutralize all the actions they are taking now is a very mixed bag and not very successful. I understand the fear of dealing with reality right now and hinging their hopes on some future election, because it's scary. But I don't think the electorate is that excited about these elections. We are more worried about what is being destroyed and taken from us right now in front of our eyes.

scipan

(2,811 posts)
42. agree
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:31 PM
May 23

Krasnov and his minions are moving extremely fast and I've read more than once that some knowledgeable people predict we won't be in a democracy by summer.

Also not sure about how free and fair the 2026 election will be.

groundloop

(12,986 posts)
10. I seem to recall an abortion ruling which was going to seal the fate of the GQP too......
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:34 AM
May 23

So no, I don't in any way shape or form feel like we should be celebrating. All of the misinformation, Russian interference, big money, lies, voter suppression, and media bias that handed the election to tRump are still in place and they're not going anywhere.

FakeNoose

(37,525 posts)
36. It's going to take a lot of hard work and leadership, "giddy" people need not apply
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:08 PM
May 23

The US news media controls the message, and most of them are MAGA, or at least MAGA-lite.
Our work is cut out for us, and we have to win next year or there won't be much left by 2028.

LudwigPastorius

(12,576 posts)
59. "Giddy" is Raw Story's headline,...
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:36 PM
May 23

which they do not back up with any kind of quote, citation, or fact in the body of the story.

Ursus Rex

(384 posts)
5. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:09 AM
May 23

This is exactly the attitude that cost the US this nonsense we're living thru now. I'm WORKING to make it happen, but I don't really see a lot of effort on the part of the DNC etc.

Ojerly

(98 posts)
6. Democrats have to change their messages.
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:10 AM
May 23

It's all well and good that they have a bunch of stuff to throw in the Republicans face, but the "Orange Man Bad" isn't the way to victory. Sure point out the flaws, but listen to the people. Show us you understand and give us the road back to sanity.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,457 posts)
8. Be careful, though. It's only a short drive from "giddy" to "cocky".
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:13 AM
May 23

That said, I would personally run on a platform pledging to strip every one of them of their citizenship and deport them to Antarctica.

Mike 03

(18,467 posts)
9. Naturally, we all want them to be right.
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:16 AM
May 23

But I think of some phrases:

"Whistling past the grave yard"

(Hoping for a) Deus ex Machina.

"trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper" (as in focusing obsessively on the minutia to the exclusion of the major matters that need attention now)

Miguelito Loveless

(4,986 posts)
11. Dem leaders are still feraking clueless about how all this works
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:42 AM
May 23

Elections will not matter. Dictators do not give up power. Any results not favoring the regime will be ignored and declared "fraudulent". When people protest, martial law will follow. The Orange Regime no longer needs "voters".

DENVERPOPS

(12,426 posts)
46. Bingo ML
Fri May 23, 2025, 05:05 PM
May 23

As Hitler's henchman, Goebells said it doesn't matter about the votes, it only matters who COUNTS the votes. I believe that Musk rigged the votes of the swing states.........The Republicans were all sounding like the had already won the election a month before the election took place.....

Miguelito Loveless

(4,986 posts)
66. As much as I would love to believe that was the case
Tue May 27, 2025, 09:17 AM
May 27

I just haven't seen evidence that supports this. Lots of conjecture, but no hard evidence. Plus, having worked around e-voting machines and helped craft actual law to supervise them, it is not as easy as a lot of folks think.

The sad reality is that 34% of the electorate voted for fascism. 33% voted against, and 33% couldn't be bothered to vote at all.

DENVERPOPS

(12,426 posts)
67. I guess we will just have to wait
Tue May 27, 2025, 12:01 PM
May 27

for future elections................and see if they resemble Russia's election outcomes.........

AND, if anyone had hard evidence, (or for that matter, was even *ALLOWED* to investigate), where would you take your proof......Trump's DOJ? Trump's FBI? Trump's USSC? Trump's FEC? Trump's U.S. Controlled House? Trump's U.S. Controlled Senate?????

And, actually 33% voted for Fascism, and 34% voted against it........(Popular Votes)

Miguelito Loveless

(4,986 posts)
68. Huh?
Tue May 27, 2025, 12:31 PM
May 27

Trump won the popular vote.

75 million voted for Harris (against fascism)
77 million voted for fascism
90 million did not vote.

My percentages are a bit off, as I was looking at more preliminary numbers from right after the election, as opposed to final numbers after the certification.

As I keep explaining to folks, it is far easier, and LEGAL, to suppress the vote, than tamper with the vote. Musk is not as competent as people believe, and voting machines are NOT connected to the Internet.

The reality is Dems lost this election fighting with outdated tactics and the Right won by embracing and abusing social media.

mdbl

(6,580 posts)
13. Does this mean they have found a way to make Fux Nooze report the truth?
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:05 AM
May 23

Or all the other right-wing whackos in the manosphere?

pimpbot

(1,086 posts)
15. Maybe they could put some effort into a unified message
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:44 AM
May 23

No longer can we run as "not trump". It aint working. We need a unified message similar to the Bernie AOC road show. We also need someone with stage presence to deliver it.

The only thing this memo shows is DCCC concentrating on regaining their majorities. Which is important, but not as important as the messaging and actions they will take when in majority.

If we somehow regain majorities and fail to act decisively, its probably curtains on the USA. Voters are tired of policy wonks debating, they are looking for action, right or wrong. Currently that action is all being done by the slimy GOP.

BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
19. At this point, the only "unified message" must be "anger"
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:01 AM
May 23

because unfortunately that works. It worked for the GOP when 45 got in the first time with an anti-Obama/anti-ACA vote, it worked for Democrats with Biden as an anti-45/anti-pandemic vote (including during the midterms with the overturning of Roe), and in the whiplash, it worked for 45 again with the anti-immigrant/anti-liberal base vote.

In EACH of these cases, people will EASILY ignore "economics" when they feel their very "being" is attacked - and that goes all ways.

They react reflexively, instinctively, emotionally, and viscerally.

Something as simple as "The GOP is taking away your rights" (and that can be fed all kinds of "rights" depending on the part of the country the messaging is happening because we are NOT A MONOLITH) and leave it at that.

FakeNoose

(37,525 posts)
39. Yes, anger appeals to a LOT of folks, not just Democrats
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 23

Those of us in our 60's and 70's may need to take a step back and let the younger ones do the messaging.

Corktown

(26 posts)
57. Stage Presence
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:57 PM
May 23

Last edited Fri May 23, 2025, 11:19 PM - Edit history (1)

As you have acknowledged yourself, Bernie and AOC have both the message and the stage presence to deliver it. And they already have delivered it.

So why look for anybody else to do what they are already doing better than anyone else?

Add Jasmine Crockett and Jamie Raskin and there’s your team to speak truth to this ongoing injustice …..

travelingthrulife

(2,429 posts)
65. We need to hang trump around Republican's necks. Every bad vote.
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:52 AM
May 24

Yes. It is the GOP we need to go after. All those GOP officials and reps who pretend they can do nothing about this when they could impeach and remove this anti-American menace.

Autumn

(47,919 posts)
16. Counting your chickens before they hatch is never a smart thing to do.
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:44 AM
May 23

Matter of fact it's down right stupid.

yardwork

(66,826 posts)
20. I don't necessarily trust this report, but...
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:05 AM
May 23

The entire Democratic Party strategy seems to be "sit back and let them make a mess and then we'll win" and I see a lot of flaws in that.

I'm worried that DNC leaders don't seem to be talking to actual Democratic voters. At least the ones who live outside the beltway cocktail circuit.

Autumn

(47,919 posts)
21. I think DNC only listens to a select few and expect all Democratic voters to go along.
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
May 23

They should realize their "who else you gonna vote for didn't work?" "vote for me I'm not as bad as the other guy" didn't work.
I don't think this "House Republicans have already sealed their political fate.” will work either.
Republicans don't give a shit about what Trump and the Republicn party does. Passing this bill will not turn off their support for their party.

yardwork

(66,826 posts)
37. I agree with you. It's not working and won't work in the future.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:12 PM
May 23

It's the wrong approach.

DENVERPOPS

(12,426 posts)
47. agreed
Fri May 23, 2025, 05:08 PM
May 23

but more timely would be the adage: something about closing the barn door after the cows already got out.....
Or, too little too late..........
Or, pissing in the ocean and expecting it to change color
Etc

mpcamb

(3,091 posts)
53. Shoulda defeated it. It was weak not to. We need a victory , not a "on the right side".
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:19 PM
May 23

KPN

(16,645 posts)
23. The DCCC is giddy? Who the hell can afford to be giddy
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
May 23

who isn’t a billionaire or aa slacky for them in times like these? No wonder I stopped giving to the DCCC more than a decade ago. Geesh!

KPN

(16,645 posts)
24. The DCCC is giddy? Who in the hell can afford to be giddy
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:48 AM
May 23

who isn’t a billionaire or aa slacky for them in times like these? No wonder I stopped giving to the DCCC more than a decade ago. Geesh!

Paladin

(30,621 posts)
25. Yeah, somehow I figured this would turn into a Democrat-bashing thread.
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:57 AM
May 23

Nonetheless depressing, to be proven correct.

hay rick

(8,746 posts)
26. So we can stay off the streets, wait, be comfortable, and everything will be OK?
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:03 AM
May 23

Got it (sarcasm).

azureblue

(2,436 posts)
27. IOW - they are not acting NOW
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
May 23

Stop waiting for something to happen to stop Trump. Start TODAY throwing a wrench into his schemes and getting him thrown out of office.
You know well that, even if the next round of elections go against Trump, he will go straight to court to contest it.
Dems, - fight fire with fire..

EarlG

(22,966 posts)
29. Um, everyone realizes that "giddy" is Raw Story's spin, yes?
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:11 AM
May 23

Raw Story has pieced together an article based on a tweet which quotes two sentence fragments from a DCCC memo which seems to express confidence that Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot with their draconian cuts.

Is there a link to the actual memo? I’d be curious to find out if this “frivolous arrogant Dems” storyline is accurate or whether people are just reacting to the headline.

EarlG

(22,966 posts)
44. Thanks!
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:32 PM
May 23

I'll be honest, I don't read giddiness in that memo. It's just a strategy memo that outlines how they're going to go after Republican House seats this fall.

There are two purposes to this: First, I'd say it would be political malpractice if they DIDN'T go all in on the House Republicans' Big Billionaire Bill. Trump will not be on the ballot next year. The memo isn't wrong in stating that many of the things Republicans voted for in the bill are very unpopular. Democrats should be hammering them for it in House districts all over the country. Republicans will probably lose seats in close districts because of the bill.

Second, the bill still has to pass the Senate. By putting out this memo, Democrats are sending a message to GOP Senators to see if they will think twice about putting their names on this piece of crap. Sure, wavering Republicans will likely cave and pass this anyway -- we all know that's likely to happen, and I'm sure the DCCC knows it too -- but you never know. We all thought they were going to repeal the ACA until John McCain fucked it up for them. So I don't see any harm in making them squirm and letting the GOP see their political futures. Next fall they're going to have to defend all the terrible things that the bill does. I have no problem with GOP Senators considering this vote with that thought in the back of their minds.

BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
54. I know Jeffries has been out there making comments - mostly on social media
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:33 PM
May 23

So I am guessing they are wrapping his comments and tone around that memo, and probably more so based on his speech before that bill was passed (because he challenged the Pro Tem Speaker and threatened to add "15 minutes more" to his speech every time he got interrupted).

yardwork

(66,826 posts)
38. See my response upthread.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 23

I agree that "giddy" is likely typical right wing spin, but still... The lack of pushback from Democratic leaders suggests to me that this really might be their strategy. They're not giddy, but I fear they are complacent.

CaptainTruth

(7,679 posts)
30. *IF* we engage in an effective messaging campaign...
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:25 PM
May 23

...that makes it clear to people how the GOP bill hurts them.

It will only matter if people know about it.

maxsolomon

(36,589 posts)
33. FFS, 17 months away is not "looming", Rawstory.
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:49 PM
May 23

And any Dem that's paying attention knows taking the Senate is highly unlikely.

ECL213

(368 posts)
34. OH HOLY SHIT!!!
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:43 PM
May 23

Someone circulated a memo??? Watch out!! They mean business!!

Once again bringing a knife to a gun fight.

sarisataka

(21,696 posts)
35. Here we go again
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:50 PM
May 23

Is "their fate sealed" like Clinton's win was "in the bag" or more like Harris' "landslide victory"?

LudwigPastorius

(12,576 posts)
60. The only people I saw calling 2024 in a landslide for Kamala were...
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:42 PM
May 23

some posters here on DU.

There may have been some individual pollsters calling for a big Harris win, but certainly no one in the DNC was doing that. They were too busy trying to get out the vote.

kimbutgar

(25,203 posts)
40. Don't count on winning until you have won
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:47 PM
May 23

There will be a lot of cheating and skullduggery within the Republican Party to stay in power and deny the people the right to vote and live in a democratic society. It has to be a massive wipeout. But I worry the MSM will fall in line and blame the Democrats for all the problems in the country and the sheep like brain dead magaloons will continue to support the orange hitler while they experience hardship caused my him.

LudwigPastorius

(12,576 posts)
61. Don't believe every headline you read either.
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:44 PM
May 23

...especially when that "giddy" assertion isn't even backed up with an unnamed source.

Marie Marie

(10,200 posts)
43. Hmmm, that's what I thought after overturning
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:13 PM
May 23

Roe V Wade. I thought that Republicans were dead in the water after that - sure seemed that way. NOPE!!

EarlG

(22,966 posts)
45. Has anyone in this thread read the actual memo?
Fri May 23, 2025, 04:41 PM
May 23

It's here:

https://punchbowl.news/memo_-swing-seat-republicans-punch-their-pink-slip-with-tax-scam/

It's about how the DCCC is going to make the "Big Beautiful Bill" the centerpiece of their efforts to retake the House next year.

Some excerpts:

As the economy is tanking, consumer confidence is at historic lows, and millions are struggling to make ends meet, House Republicans decided to ignore it all… and advance an astonishingly detrimental bill – the GOP Tax Scam – that raises costs on working families while benefiting the wealthiest few.

(snip)

In poll after poll, public support for Trump and the Republican agenda is cratering. The GOP Tax Scam doubles down on all the anxieties the public has about D.C. politicians prioritizing their wealthy friends over everyday people – and takes a chainsaw to programs that are popular among a broad swath of Americans, from Trump voters to independents to progressives.

(snip)

House Republicans know their Tax Scam would enact the largest cut to Medicaid and food assistance in American history – which is why they are on the run. In a desperate, hypocritical attempt to inoculate themselves from their eventual vote in favor of this terrible bill, vulnerable Republicans whined, wrote letters, and filed meaningless resolutions to try and convince their voters they would not cut Medicaid and other vital programs. It was all a lie. Now that they’ve been caught, the DCCC will use their words against them over and over again like the albatross it is.

(snip)

Republicans in the House will be forced to wear this vote for the remainder of the election cycle. At town halls, in paid communications, and from their Democratic challengers, House Democrats and the DCCC will use this vote as the defining contrast of the 2026 election cycle.

Sounds okay to me....

pfitz59

(11,521 posts)
48. We still need a message that resonates with the masses
Fri May 23, 2025, 05:21 PM
May 23

Trans rights and womens rights won't do it. Take a page from AOC and Bernie. Tax the rich. Send the wealth BACK to the middle class!

bronxiteforever

(10,463 posts)
55. Trump has been President for 4 months
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 23

Our government is kidnapping people off the streets and sending people to hell holes. Americans don’t remember what happened on January 6th when TSF nearly overthrew our government.

People’s lives are at stake every second of his term. Giddy is not an adjective I would use. Hell will we have elections in 2026? Will the US be in a depression with military rule? There is a knife at democracy’s throat and we need to deal with what is immediately in front of us and it ain’t the midterms.

Safe as Milk

(117 posts)
62. The only "fate" that's sealed is the fate of the '26 elections.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:06 AM
May 24

really, the worse it looks for Trump, the higher the probability that he'll manipulate the government into announcing a national emergency, after which he'll cancel the elections. So, his attempt to cancel the election is likely a certainty. Is anyone preparing for this eventuality?

OldBaldy1701E

(7,976 posts)
64. "Democrats are already plotting to go on the offense..."
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:54 AM
May 24

Umm... shouldn't you have already been 'on the offense'?

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