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BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:44 PM Wednesday

'They Got Railroaded!' Trump Says He'll Consider Pardons for Men Convicted In Plot to Kidnap Democratic Governor

Source: MEDIAite

May 28th, 2025, 1:29 pm


President Donald Trump said he will consider pardoning the men convicted in connection with a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D).

Speaking with reporters in the Oval Office on Wednesday, the president said he plans to look at the cases of the four men who were either convicted or pleaded guilty on various federal charges stemming from the 2020 plot to kidnap the governor. Trump, when asked about potential pardons by a pool reporter, stated he believes the men were “railroaded.”

“I will take a look at it,” Trump said. “It’s been brought to my attention. I did watch the trial. It looked to me like somewhat of a railroad job, I’ll be honest with you. It looked to me like some people said some stupid things, you know? They were drinking, and I think they said stupid things. But I’ll take a look at that, and a lot of people are asking me that question — from both sides, actually. A lot of people think they got railroaded. A lot of people think they got railroaded. And probably some people don’t.”

On a podcast last week, Ed Martin — who is now the DOJ’s pardon attorney after having his nomination withdrawn to be the lead U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — said he plans to take a “hard look” at pardons for the men. “We can’t leave these guys behind,” Martin told far-right podcaster Breanna Morello. He added, “In my opinion, these are victims just like January 6.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/they-got-railroaded-trump-says-hell-consider-pardons-for-men-convicted-in-plot-to-kidnap-democratic-governor/



A bunch were also charged, tried, and convicted by the state of MI (and he has no control over that) - Final Sentences Ordered in Whitmer Kidnap Plot
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'They Got Railroaded!' Trump Says He'll Consider Pardons for Men Convicted In Plot to Kidnap Democratic Governor (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
Trump is sending a message that it is a good idea to kidnap, rape, kill Dem officials. Irish_Dem Wednesday #1
Just like Ashli Bobbitt Resistance1 Wednesday #3
Working for the Nazi Trump Crime Syndicate comes with a lot of benefits. Irish_Dem Thursday #32
The criminals will become his slaves for life. travelingthrulife Thursday #31
Yes he can order them to commit hits on his enemies. Irish_Dem Thursday #40
Whitmer tried to make nice with Trump. Irish_Dem Wednesday #2
First thing that came to my mind when I saw the article BumRushDaShow Wednesday #4
Trump loves the attention when people kiss his ass, but he hates the people doing it. Irish_Dem Wednesday #6
If any or all of these criminals DENVERPOPS Thursday #24
Trump is deliberately unleashing the worst criminals. Irish_Dem Thursday #25
How would you feel if you had served on a jury that convicted one of TSF's pardoned ones? sinkingfeeling Wednesday #5
Last time I did jury duty it crossed my mind to use that as an excuse during selection. travelingthrulife Thursday #33
Of course. Promote terror plots that target 47 "enemies" (nt) pat_k Wednesday #7
This in one of several pardons the Orange Fascist has made Playingmantis Wednesday #8
He needs to find creeps who will march in his parade. Turbineguy Wednesday #9
Is his goal to build an army of loyalists like the jan 6th bunch? bluestarone Wednesday #10
The new norm BidenRocks Wednesday #16
He absolutely owns these people. travelingthrulife Thursday #34
Typical tourist behavior IronLionZion Wednesday #11
They'll have an ICE badge by next week. groundloop Wednesday #12
I bet Big Gretch regrets going to the poli-junkie Wednesday #13
She has responsibilities as the governor of her state, & trying to deal with the president of the US is one of them Hekate Wednesday #14
Yeah. Hope she is happy with the fighter jets johnnyfins Wednesday #15
Well Krasnov's reading of the works of and by the Nazis and Goebbels is plain to see. Botany Wednesday #17
Sounds like a green light to anyone who targets a democrat. JohnnyRingo Wednesday #18
Precisely. Kid Berwyn Thursday #26
Fucking Terrorist-in-Chief catbyte Wednesday #19
Every focking day. Just one damn day when he doesn't spew some weird-ass script. chouchou Wednesday #20
So much of this is petty revenge for him getting his toy taken away from him in 2020. Initech Wednesday #21
Good Grief!!! Rhiannon12866 Thursday #22
Railroaded? love_katz Thursday #23
Trump, Stephen Miller, and others have been putting together their "army of head busters" for some .. Botany Thursday #27
"I did watch the trial" Ray Bruns Thursday #28
Federal trials are not televised. He lied Evolve Dammit Thursday #36
More of his "good people on both sides" BS, while hinting that violence against Dems is ok, even sorta manly. Timeflyer Thursday #29
So much for federal justice. JustABozoOnThisBus Thursday #30
"Are there any state charges that can be filed? " BumRushDaShow Thursday #35
Apologies, I am a bit gun-shy about clicking links. JustABozoOnThisBus Thursday #38
If the federal sentences come first (which they usually do), then the state ones usually proceed after BumRushDaShow Thursday #39
Demented sociopath. Martin68 Thursday #37
Disgusting DownriverDem Thursday #41
Of course he will pardon them. He thinks attacks against Democrats are good. Doodley Thursday #42

Irish_Dem

(70,289 posts)
1. Trump is sending a message that it is a good idea to kidnap, rape, kill Dem officials.
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:48 PM
Wednesday

The criminals will be pardoned.
Maybe even rewarded with cash.

Irish_Dem

(70,289 posts)
6. Trump loves the attention when people kiss his ass, but he hates the people doing it.
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:58 PM
Wednesday

He loathes and disrespects them for bending the knee.

Then he humiliates them even more down the road.

DENVERPOPS

(12,426 posts)
24. If any or all of these criminals
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:54 AM
Thursday

get a pardon, it will be even a bigger travesty of justice than the insurrectionists on J6th........There are some real bad asses in this bunch, several of them even made it to Super Max here in Colorado.......the hardest core maximum security prison in the entire U.S.

Irish_Dem

(70,289 posts)
25. Trump is deliberately unleashing the worst criminals.
Thu May 29, 2025, 06:13 AM
Thursday

Ironic since he is pretending to clean up the streets.

sinkingfeeling

(55,289 posts)
5. How would you feel if you had served on a jury that convicted one of TSF's pardoned ones?
Wed May 28, 2025, 06:56 PM
Wednesday

The so-called president overturning juries. No law and order anymore.

travelingthrulife

(2,429 posts)
33. Last time I did jury duty it crossed my mind to use that as an excuse during selection.
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:29 AM
Thursday

Trump doesn't think juries are necessry.

Playingmantis

(409 posts)
8. This in one of several pardons the Orange Fascist has made
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:06 PM
Wednesday

My question is" Where will this lead and when and how will it end when people know the can commit any crime and be pardoned by claiming they are persecuted Trumpers, victims of the SCUM, liberal Democrats?

bluestarone

(19,831 posts)
10. Is his goal to build an army of loyalists like the jan 6th bunch?
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:12 PM
Wednesday

I'm beginning to believe that. We are in trouble folks, unless this monster is removed from office.

BidenRocks

(1,540 posts)
16. The new norm
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:11 PM
Wednesday

Carrying a concealed weapon without permit.
See something, shoot something.
We outnumber the hardcore right and they will suffer Ashley Bobbits and surrender.
ICE will fight us but our police and military have some reckoning to do.

What price freedom?
Hope for peace, prepare for battle!
Trust No One!

poli-junkie

(1,282 posts)
13. I bet Big Gretch regrets going to the
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:14 PM
Wednesday

White House. When will folks learn ya can’t trust the bastard?

Hekate

(97,876 posts)
14. She has responsibilities as the governor of her state, & trying to deal with the president of the US is one of them
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:29 PM
Wednesday

No matter how distasteful.

johnnyfins

(2,143 posts)
15. Yeah. Hope she is happy with the fighter jets
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:58 PM
Wednesday

Now, when these dirtbags get pardoned, she can look o er her shoulder every minute till they execute their plan.

Botany

(74,315 posts)
17. Well Krasnov's reading of the works of and by the Nazis and Goebbels is plain to see.
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:18 PM
Wednesday

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”
Goebbles or Trump.

JohnnyRingo

(19,951 posts)
18. Sounds like a green light to anyone who targets a democrat.
Wed May 28, 2025, 09:20 PM
Wednesday

I think "stand down and stand by" has evolved into stand up and report for lynching.
Shame on that whole party for allowing this.

catbyte

(37,022 posts)
19. Fucking Terrorist-in-Chief
Wed May 28, 2025, 10:04 PM
Wednesday

He's encouraging his asshole criminals to kill my governor and, really, any Democrat.

Sieg Heil, shitstain.

love_katz

(3,075 posts)
23. Railroaded?
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:20 AM
Thursday

Nope. No one he held a gun to the heads of the kidnap platters. Not buying it, Orange Foolius.

Let's see: a bunch of white male militia goobers, plotting to kidnap the governor and take her somewhere for an ersatz "trial", and $hitler is trying to sell the idea that they got railroaded by being prosecuted after getting caught? What a freaking joke.

Our judicial system has let the Crime Minister repeatedly off the hook for his multitude of crimes, and his hand picked Extreme court has made him a virtual king by granting him immunity for whatever he chooses to do.
Laws don't prevent people from breaking them they just give society recourse if the laws are broken. Recourse can only occur if the laws are enforced and enforced equally and fairly.

It's painfully obvious that the laws are only being enforced on BIPOC and women. Women are only let off the hook if they are serving the agenda of the wealthy broligarchs.
The jerk wads who were plotting to kidnap the governor weren't railroaded anymore than the Tangerine Tyrant has been subjected to a "witch hunt". The Orange Anus has absolutely no concept of what it is like to be subjected to a witch hunt.
He's doing just like his hero, Hitler. Pardoning criminals in order to create his army of Brown Shirts.

Botany

(74,315 posts)
27. Trump, Stephen Miller, and others have been putting together their "army of head busters" for some ..
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:06 AM
Thursday

.. time now. He expunged the federal records of 150,00 former law enforcement agents
who got fired and some went to jail for various crimes and violating law enforcement
protocols such as abuse, theft, bribery, and other things so they might be eligible to work
for the federal government. He pardoned those 1,500 J-6th shits including the leadership
of the attempted violent coup to make Trump a dictator, he has been protecting shits like
the Proud Boys and Patriot Front and they like to rent U-Haul box trucks and then show up
and intimidate citizens by carrying guns, Nazi flags, and stop Xmas shows in my neighborhood,
he is cleaning out the FBI of agents who believe in the rule of law and replacing them with “true
believers” who say that Trump was robbed in the 2020 election, and the A.G. along with the
top 2 people @ the FBI are totally “Trump Dirty.” And don’t get me started on paying Ashly
Babbit’s family $5 million for her death as she was trying to break into Speaker Pelosi’s office
to look for her and possibly hang her for stealing the 2020 election from Joe Biden.

Krasnov is planning to use violence. End of story.

Timeflyer

(3,188 posts)
29. More of his "good people on both sides" BS, while hinting that violence against Dems is ok, even sorta manly.
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:11 AM
Thursday

BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
35. "Are there any state charges that can be filed? "
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:48 AM
Thursday

Linked in the OP comments (the final sentences were handed out at the end of 2023 for MI state charges for the 6 who were convicted).

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,158 posts)
38. Apologies, I am a bit gun-shy about clicking links.
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:14 PM
Thursday

If there are Michigan sentences, then the pardons should simply transfer these individuals from a federal prison to a state prison, right?

Depending on the current federal prison, they might be wise to decline the pardon. Some of the state prisons are not as nice, with food provided by lowest bidder, etc.

BumRushDaShow

(153,696 posts)
39. If the federal sentences come first (which they usually do), then the state ones usually proceed after
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:35 PM
Thursday

(although in some cases, they might have them deemed to happen simultaneously).

The last update from DOJ on the federal sentences is here (at the end of 2022) - https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/final-defendant-michigan-governor-kidnapping-plot-sentenced-over-19-years-prison

A couple should already be done and may already be serving the state sentences but the ones with the longer sentences (one guy had a 16 year federal sentence), assuming the full pardons go through, would send them right to the state prison system.

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