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ruet

(10,131 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:30 PM Sunday

Vance Boelter arrested near Green Isle home, sources tell ABC

Source: KTSP

UPDATE:

Authorities have captured 57-year-old Vance Boelter near his Green Isle home, several sources confirmed to ABC NEWS Sunday night.

He is believed to be responsible for fatally shooting Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband. He also shot Sen. John Hoffman and his wife.

Read more: https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/manhunt-underway-for-man-possibly-posing-as-law-enforcement-in-brooklyn-park/

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Vance Boelter arrested near Green Isle home, sources tell ABC (Original Post) ruet Sunday OP
Great job, LEOs! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Sunday #1
Will there be "Due Process" Traildogbob Sunday #2
Or will Trump pardon him....? nt Gore1FL Sunday #4
State crime, can't pardon. Ocelot II Sunday #6
Does a hate crime become a federal crime? Mme. Defarge Sunday #11
There's a federal hate crime but it wouldn't apply to this case. Ocelot II Sunday #13
So why is Bondi going after luigi? Old Crank Sunday #25
He was charged with *interstate* stalking resulting in death. Ocelot II Sunday #27
Thanks Old Crank Sunday #31
I pray they don't find that he made purchases out of state ArizonaLib Monday #46
If there are federal charges (maybe relating to firearms?) the state will still charge him Ocelot II Monday #57
Thanks! ArizonaLib Monday #60
Thank mzmolly Sunday #3
Not "petty"! It's Right Freaking ON! Cha Sunday #32
good! I was worried he'd commit suicide before they got h8im.. FirstLight Sunday #5
There are fates worse than death. Dr. T Sunday #35
I thought he had roommates, now I hear he has a wife too? Wingus Dingus Sunday #7
Was spending a few nights a week nearer to his work or nearer to looking for work. Something like that. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #12
That he was digging eyeballs out of people to make money... littlemissmartypants Sunday #34
Yes, that is creepy. Wingus Dingus Monday #50
The asshole has been taken into custody LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #8
Goddamn him! luvallpeeps Sunday #10
Good job, MNPD. sheshe2 Sunday #9
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Sunday #14
Oh, good! sinkingfeeling Sunday #14
Why is he only being charged with second degree murder (2) and second degree attempted murder (2)? Anybody up sinkingfeeling Sunday #16
That's the way it's done. First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment, Ocelot II Sunday #19
Thanks. sinkingfeeling Sunday #21
Ty! SheltieLover Sunday #28
And defiantly pre-meditated. Bengus81 Monday #51
My guess would be that they're going for the sure charges now, with the option to upgrade later as the case develops. NBachers Sunday #20
See above post. First-degree murder charge has to be by grand jury indictment, Ocelot II Sunday #22
I was wrong Kali Sunday #17
Same Here ProfessorGAC Monday #49
Probably Kali Monday #53
Me too n/t malaise Monday #61
My question: Who was helping him? NBachers Sunday #18
My question as well. bluestarone Monday #56
Local authorities say there will be a press conference at 10:30 tonight dflprincess Sunday #23
Thank goodness mountain grammy Sunday #24
Had No Kings signs in his car. purple_haze Sunday #26
They got him! James48 Sunday #29
I was hoping for a quick capture tonekat Sunday #30
TY!! Good on the MN State Patrol! Can't wait to hear Cha Sunday #33
According to the local tv news and the press conference, Ocelot II Sunday #37
Oh My Gosh! I got Chills! TY So Cha Monday #39
He was captured instead of being assassinated Klarkashton Sunday #36
Thank goodness he was merely a premeditated-murdering armed white male RockRaven Monday #38
White wing. NT usonian Monday #42
Very happy to hear this! Delphinus Monday #40
Taken alive, no less. RandySF Monday #41
Attention on the cell block! BidenRocks Monday #43
Thank pitchforks and pointed ears. nt BootinUp Monday #44
It's a good thing... Godot51 Monday #45
They found three AK-47s in his vehicle muriel_volestrangler Monday #47
Yes, semiautomatic AK's are legal NickB79 Monday #48
AND ... marble falls Monday #54
gun humpers gotta hump Skittles Monday #63
So much for the ultra survivalist meme the press seemed to be hawking. marble falls Monday #52
Turns out he's a wannabe whose security business never got off the ground. Ocelot II Monday #58
He's the Walter Mitty of Ninjas. marble falls Monday #59
I thought Palantir had all the bad apples ID'd before they erupted bucolic_frolic Monday #55
Photos, and presser with Gov Walz, and Wired's report of the lies on Musk's platform ancianita Monday #62

Traildogbob

(11,321 posts)
2. Will there be "Due Process"
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:34 PM
Sunday

For the white man that kills Dems?
You betcha! Much more than Garcia.
He will never see El Salvador.

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
13. There's a federal hate crime but it wouldn't apply to this case.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:58 PM
Sunday

18 U.S.C. § 249 makes it a federal crime to "willfully cause bodily injury.. or death.. based on the victim's actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability, if the crime affects interstate or foreign commerce or occurs within federal jurisdiction." None of the victims were members of the listed groups and the crime didn't affect interstate or foreign commerce or occur within federal jurisdiction. Minnesota doesn't have a separate hate crime law but a statute provides for enhanced penalties if a crime victim is a member of one those groups - but they weren't.

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
27. He was charged with *interstate* stalking resulting in death.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:37 PM
Sunday

Mangione had come to NY from Atlanta for the purpose of murdering Brian Thompson, so the interstate requirement for federal jurisdiction was satisfied. There's no interstate element in Boelter's case.

ArizonaLib

(1,280 posts)
46. I pray they don't find that he made purchases out of state
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:22 AM
Monday

Or something else they can use to send him to some club med bizarro Guantanamo (the opposite of real incarceration). Or they don't Jack Ruby him. Sorry I am unable to put snything past this Reich. Fingers still crossed though. I don't know hardly anything about the criminal system except to avoid having to deal with law enforcement.

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
57. If there are federal charges (maybe relating to firearms?) the state will still charge him
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:33 AM
Monday

with murder and attempted murder (as of this morning that has already happened). Federal charges, if any, would be in addition to the state charges, and would not remove him from the state's jurisdiction.

mzmolly

(52,276 posts)
3. Thank
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:35 PM
Sunday

goodness! I'm glad it was MN State Patrol and not Trump's FBI that made the arrest, though I know that's petty.

Cha

(312,080 posts)
32. Not "petty"! It's Right Freaking ON!
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:44 PM
Sunday

TY & MN State Patrol!

I wonder how he got caught?!

FirstLight

(15,296 posts)
5. good! I was worried he'd commit suicide before they got h8im..
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:42 PM
Sunday

I hope they keep a close eye on him...

Dr. T

(273 posts)
35. There are fates worse than death.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:51 PM
Sunday

Life in prison is at the top of the list.

To paraphrase the artist Sting, there is no heaven and their is no hell. I hope this is his hell.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,521 posts)
12. Was spending a few nights a week nearer to his work or nearer to looking for work. Something like that. . . nt
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM
Sunday

littlemissmartypants

(28,121 posts)
34. That he was digging eyeballs out of people to make money...
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:50 PM
Sunday

Especially weird.

I had a patient, in the early nineties, that died of Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease from infected eyeballs from the dangerous, unregulated American transplant industry.

Digging out eyeballs takes a special kind of person.

Response to ruet (Original post)

sinkingfeeling

(55,607 posts)
16. Why is he only being charged with second degree murder (2) and second degree attempted murder (2)? Anybody up
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM
Sunday

on Minnesota law?

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
19. That's the way it's done. First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:08 PM
Sunday

so the initial charge is always second-degree murder, which can be done by complaint. He'll be arraigned on that charge at first, and after that the case will be brought before a grand jury to obtain a first-degree murder indictment.

NBachers

(18,642 posts)
20. My guess would be that they're going for the sure charges now, with the option to upgrade later as the case develops.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:09 PM
Sunday

But that’s just spitballing.

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
22. See above post. First-degree murder charge has to be by grand jury indictment,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:11 PM
Sunday

so the initial charge is always second-degree murder by complaint until the case can go to a grand jury.

Kali

(56,258 posts)
17. I was wrong
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:05 PM
Sunday

Figured he offed himself in the woods someplace.

Now he can be a prison preacher.

ProfessorGAC

(73,156 posts)
49. Same Here
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 07:23 AM
Monday

I was sure of it, and said so here yesterday.
I'll accept I was wrong, but I'm amazed he let himself get caught.

dflprincess

(28,865 posts)
23. Local authorities say there will be a press conference at 10:30 tonight
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM
Sunday

For those not in Minnesota our local stations are: (just in case CNN or MSNBC don't cover it live)

WCCO (CBS)
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/

KSTP (ABC)
https://kstp.com/local-news/

KARE (NBC)
https://www.kare11.com/local

On edit: Looks like both CNN & MSNBC are going to cover it. (Their Sunday night programming is usually so iffy)

tonekat

(2,250 posts)
30. I was hoping for a quick capture
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:42 PM
Sunday

Apparently he's a military/LEO/Security wanna-be, preacher, anti-choice whacko, and food service specialist.

Cha

(312,080 posts)
33. TY!! Good on the MN State Patrol! Can't wait to hear
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:50 PM
Sunday

how they spotted him and proceeded to Capture!

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
37. According to the local tv news and the press conference,
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:57 PM
Sunday

he was hiding in the woods near his house out in Sibley County, and a neighbor saw him on a trail camera and called the police. He was cornered in the woods and spotted with drones and finally surrendered.

Cha

(312,080 posts)
39. Oh My Gosh! I got Chills! TY So
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:03 AM
Monday

Much, Ocelot!

Like a Cornered Rabid Rat.

Than Goodness for the Neighbor!

RockRaven

(17,430 posts)
38. Thank goodness he was merely a premeditated-murdering armed white male
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:01 AM
Monday

and not something really dangerous like an unarmed black man buying something with a questionable $20 bill.

Delphinus

(12,310 posts)
40. Very happy to hear this!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:04 AM
Monday

Let him sing loudly - or his family members, who should have been detained when they stopped them earlier.

Godot51

(496 posts)
45. It's a good thing...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:50 AM
Monday

... for him that he wasn't Black (for any reason), wasn't a black child holding a toy gun, or some other "dark" skinned fugitive who simply ran from the police.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,925 posts)
47. They found three AK-47s in his vehicle
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 04:52 AM
Monday
Charges say officers searched the SUV and found at least three AK-47 assault rifles, a 9mm handgun and a list of names and addresses of other public officials.

While searching the area, police found a ballistic vest, a disassembled 9mm handgun, a mask and a gold police-style badge. The criminal complaint says Boelter is the listed purchaser for at least four of the guns taken by police.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/vance-boelter-charges-minnesota-lawmaker-shootings/

"At least four of the guns" - with two handguns noted, does that mean it's legal to own AK-47s in Minnesota?

If the police hadn't found him at the second address, imagine what he might have gone on to do.

NickB79

(19,938 posts)
48. Yes, semiautomatic AK's are legal
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:21 AM
Monday

No different than an AR-15. You need a handgun license from the local police dept to purchase anything with a pistol grip, which basically takes 1-2 weeks to receive after you apply.

The local Fleet Farm carries a few models near me.

marble falls

(66,148 posts)
54. AND ...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:47 AM
Monday


Century Arms Draco 9s 9mm AK-47 Style Pistol with 35 Round Magazine and SOB47 Brace

$619.99 $549.99

In Stock

Brand: Century Arms
Item Number: HG7889-N


Here's a whole page of "pistols" - https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/ak-47-pistols-for-sale


When you make a shotgun into a "pistol" you get what got David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and the guy at Ruby Ridge into shootouts with the federal government over.

Ocelot II

(125,349 posts)
58. Turns out he's a wannabe whose security business never got off the ground.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM
Monday

It seems to have had no clients at all, but apparently he used it as a way to obtain a vehicle and some law enforcement accoutrements. Whether he ever intended the business to be legit or just wanted a front for his assassination plot isn't clear yet, but although his cop ruse was enough to get him into the homes of his victims, he was never the skilled ninja-type portrayed by some of the media.

ancianita

(40,716 posts)
62. Photos, and presser with Gov Walz, and Wired's report of the lies on Musk's platform
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:42 PM
Monday





https://www.wired.com/story/psyop-far-right-conspiracy-theories-minnesota-shooting/

“The far left is murderously violent,” Elon Musk wrote on X on Saturday, a post that remains on the site and has been viewed over 50 million times.

When the facts of the story emerged—that the alleged shooter had been registered in other states as a Republican, was said to have voted for President Donald Trump and, as WIRED reported, had participated in an evangelical ministry where he preached against abortion and demonized the LGTBQ community—the conspiracy theories didn’t stop. Instead, they just changed. Posters then claimed the incident was a false flag conducted by the shadowy deep state, while trying to distance the shooter from any connection to the president and the wider MAGA movement...For years in the wake of mass shootings or politically-motivated violence, the far-right has sought to portray the perpetrators as leftists, members of antifa, part of the LGBTQ community, or connected in some way to the Democratic party, despite all evidence showing that the extremist violence is usually conducted by far-right actors...

YouTuber Benny Johnson, who has almost 5 million followers on the video-sharing site and more than 3 million followers on X, positioned the shooting as part of a growing trend of left-wing violence in a long screed on X that described the alleged shooter as “a left-wing Tim Walz appointee.“

“Everyone talks about Minnesota, but they don't talk about the guy seems to be a leftist,” Donald Trump Jr. said in an an interview with News Nation. “The guy who committed those atrocities this weekend was a Democrat who worked for Tim Walz.” When pressed by the interviewer, who replied, “he voted for your Dad,” Trump Jr. said, “I'll believe that when I see it.”


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