Trump Will Not Sign G7 Statement on Iran and Israel, Official Says

[ancianita]

Source: New York Times

President Trump has decided not to sign onto a statement calling for de-escalation between Iran and Israel that is being prepared by the Group of 7 industrialized nations, according to a White House official, the first evidence of an ongoing rift between Mr. Trump and his fellow leaders gathered for a summit in Alberta, Canada.

The official, who asked for anonymity to discuss the joint statement, which has not been released publicly, did not say why the president was opposed to signing. A copy of the draft statement, which was obtained by The New York Times, urges both Israel and Iran to halt attacks on one another that have killed dozens of people in both countries over the past several days.

A G7 official said the draft statement was not final and that discussions about the situation in the Middle East among the leaders, including Mr. Trump, were expected to continue throughout the day on Monday and again on Tuesday. The official requested anonymity to discussed a sensitive diplomatic matter.

The draft statement, expresses deep concern regarding the conflict, which began on Friday when Israel launched strikes across Iran, including on its nuclear research facilities. The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has said the strikes are necessary to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/world/middleeast/trump-israel-iran-g7-summit.html

[walkingman]

1. Frightening to have a lunatic in the WH.

[ancianita]

3. Indeed. He's also a coward for taking Iran's side instead of Israel's. This NYT report shows why that's true.

...if that diplomatic effort fizzles, or the Iranians remain unwilling to give in to Mr. Trump’s central demand that they must ultimately end all uranium enrichment on Iranian soil, the president will still have the option of ordering that Fordo and other nuclear facilities be destroyed.

There is only one weapon for the job, experts contend. It is called the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or the GBU-57, and it weighs so much — 30,000 pounds — that it can be lifted only by a B-2 bomber. Israel does not own either the weapon or the bomber needed to get it aloft and over target.

If Mr. Trump holds back, it could well mean that Israel’s main objective in the war is never completed...

...over the past two years the U.S. military has refined the operation, under close White House scrutiny. The exercises led to the conclusion that one bomb would not solve the problem; any attack on Fordo would have to come in waves, with B-2s releasing one bomb after another down the same hole. And the operation would have to be executed by an American pilot and crew.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/us/politics/trump-iran-diplomacy-conflict.html

[no_hypocrisy]

2. For two reasons:

1. They didn't beg and say "Pretty please!", and

2. The countries will not unconditionally accept his stupid-ass tariffs.

[ancianita]

4. I'd say it's about

Putin helping Iran against Israel and other ME nations, and the felon not wanting to piss him off.

[NBachers]

5. How can he continue the March to the End Times if he calls off bombing between Israel and Iran?

[ancianita]

6. His deceived fake christian fundies might want that. But he himself doesn't want to be "that guy."

[riversedge]

7. It would be good for the Earth and its people if the #USA had a sane President.

[ancianita]

8. Couldn't agree more.

[ancianita]

9. Some interesting up-to-the-moment maps, photos, graphics from the Guardian on what's happening.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/16/visualised-israel-iran-war-maps-videos-satellite-images

[riversedge]

10. Please make it a separate OP as the images are so helpful. So much going on that I feel

visuals are very helpful. Thanks so much

[ancianita]

11. If you think so, I give it a try. Thank you back.

[Bayard]

12. Total imbecile

Why in the world would he not sign a doc that wants to stop escalation on both sides?

[ancianita]

14. imo, it's the total cowardice of a weak leader, a puppet

Because he's putin's boy. Which country putin is for explains the felon's indecision.

[AloeVera]

15. Maybe because he actually WANTS escalation and has already promised it to madman Bibi

If not by directly participating, then by complicitly allowing it.

He did just say everyone should evacuate Tehran immediately! He knows what's coming. It will be awful.

A city of 10 million, 16 with its metropolitan area. Many have no car or access to gas. Elderly, the sick, dying, disabled, children. Think of the panic and terror. You can be sure those two madmen aren't. Oh and Israelis and supporters cheer them on. Scary and pathetic.

[ancianita]

17. True, there are millions of vulnerable in Tehran. But they chose their leader, didn't they. One who has led and trained

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all those of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC or Sepah) which it has funded to attack innocent Israelis since Israel was founded in 1948. Netanyahu, criminal before his people or not, is still defending Israel. Israel did NOT start the latest Hamas attack. Hamas and its backer, Iran, did. Remember that.

This is a believer war. If Israel defends itself by destroying Iran's MEANS of destroying Israel, that is its right. The defender in this war is not equal to the attacker; Netanyahu is not a madman. It is Khomeini and his Shia who refuse to live and let live with the Jews of the Middle East.

Taking a side against Netanyahu is to take the side of Shia Iran. Is that what you want? You can't use the "both sides" argument in a war that has a clear attacker and defender. The same goes for Ukraine.

No armchair generals of America who have not faced lifelong existential threat -- none of them can have it both ways.

[AloeVera]

20. "....millions of vulnerable...but they chose their leader..."

Do you not see anything wrong with that statement?

The existential threat in the Middle East - to its non-compliant neighbours - is the nuclear-armed Israel.

Ask any Arab/Muslim in the region how they feel living in the shadow of the nuclear threat Israel poses. Without any oversight of its ever-expanding nuclear capability to boot, as it refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty having denied that it has any nuclear bombs. Or that they could be - and are - bombed any time Israel feels "threatened" or says it does. THAT is living in existential fear.

Clear attacker and defender? Yes, Israel is the clear attacker, attacking yet another sovereign nation without provocation, while negotiations were still underway. Even if negotiations had failed, Israel would not have had the "right" to attack based on unsubstantiated, contradicted claims. Israel attacked opportunistically because the U.S. under Trump is weak, destroying Iran is a long-term goal, and Israel needed "shade" from the horrors unfolding in Gaza and change the subject.

Israel does not have the right to defend itself by killing thousands of innocents through flouting the laws of war and humanity doing so. What it has committed in Gaza is orders of magnitude beyond "self-defense". It is a horror and an outrage, an absolute stain on us as human beings. If you do not see that then you will probably see the planned and foretold ethnic cleansing by starvation and terror as simply "voluntary emigration" and a "humanitarian" gesture. In which case you and I may as well each be from a different planet, that is how much our views diverge.

Israel has destroyed Gaza, large parts of Lebanon and Syria and continues to bomb and occupy parts of those sovereign nations. It will de facto annex those territories it occupies and eventually fulfill the dreams of its founders and religious fanatics to create the Land of Israel/Greater Israel. This is not how a modern nation bound by rules and norms behaves. It's how a land-hungry self-absorbed and selfish nation acts. Were it any other nation than Israel it would have been smacked down in its colonial/imperial expansionist, religio-fanatic ways and behaviour.

A nation that can only sustain itself by attacking and terrorizing its neighbours, oppressing and stealing the land of its natives, and impoverishing and making into refugees millions of human beings is a nation that needs to reform, do some serious soul-searching or face the consequences sooner or later.

Will it? Doubtful. That bothers those of us who believe in humanism and universal values like "freedom", equality, human rights and all those other things us liberals are supposed to hold dear.

[ancianita]

22. Not at all. They are Shia, and back their dear Ayatollah. What part of believer do you not understand?

What part of "coexistence" do the Shia iunderstand? None of it. They are not a "live and let live" sect.
Sunnis, yes. Shia, no. Study their history and you will see that the destruction of Israel is explicitly written into the Hamas Charter, and funded by the Shia country of Iran. Shia constitute only 15% of Islam but are the 100% of all the believer wars so far in our lifetimes.

A nation that can only sustain itself by attacking and terrorizing its neighbours, oppressing and stealing the land of its natives, and impoverishing and making into refugees millions of human beings is a nation that needs to reform, do some serious soul-searching or face the consequences sooner or later.

You have just mapped out US history and the history of every colonizing country. What we liberal Americans enjoy came on the backs of human trafficking and genocide even before the 'self exceptional' founders wrote our founding documents. We Americans must tell the truth about our history, warts and all. You realize that, right?

Weapons and believer wars are the bane of the planet. America must reform. Israel must reform. Iran must reform. And even the Sunni kingdom of Saud must reform its dark money proxy funding against Israel.
It's why we continue diplomacy with warring believer countries who call us "the Great Satan".
The Shia's wars are part of its forever war, as is that of Putin's Russia. Good luck with convincing them of your "universal values."

If you believe in humanism and universal values, then you would be able to clearly identify those who don't.
Your post shows that you don't. Being in denial about that (by your standards) will not make you a credible human.

We should not fool ourselves about who wants a just peace for the world, and who wants an unjust peace.

[dchill]

16. He's a fucking tuber.

[ancianita]

18. What's a tuber?

[dchill]

19. Not to get technical, it's a potato, for instance.

[ancianita]

21. Ah, makes sense now. Thanks.