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vanessa_ca

(840 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 03:51 PM 16 hrs ago

US spent $5 billion worth of munitions in the first two days of attacks on Iran, docs show

Source: The Independent

US spent $5 billion worth of munitions in the first two days of attacks on Iran, docs show
'$5.6 billion could have paid for over 356000 Medicare or 568,00 Medicaid enrollees,' one social media user commented.


The U.S. churned through $5.6 billion worth of weaponry during the first two days of its war against Iran, highlighting the steep financial cost of the overseas conflict, according to a new report.

The Pentagon provided the estimate to lawmakers Monday, nine days after the U.S. and Israel launched a surprise attack on Iran that ignited a wider conflict across the Middle East and caused hundreds of casualties, three unnamed officials told The Washington Post.

Officials said President Donald Trump’s administration is expected to submit a supplemental defense budget request to Congress in the coming days to help fund its ongoing military campaign — a proposal that could reach tens of billions of dollars.

The newly reported $5.6 billion figure appears to conflict with a previous, lower, official estimate on the cost of the war.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/iran-war-cost-billions-weapons-b2935579.html

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US spent $5 billion worth of munitions in the first two days of attacks on Iran, docs show (Original Post) vanessa_ca 16 hrs ago OP
That's a lot of taxpayer dollars Attilatheblond 16 hrs ago #1
As we nickle and dime working-class Americans and the poor to death -eom vanessa_ca 16 hrs ago #2
There's always killin' money. twodogsbarking 16 hrs ago #3
yes Skittles 15 hrs ago #5
Weapons and ammo Normanart 15 hrs ago #4
It's reverse Robin Hood. ananda 15 hrs ago #6
War is expensive. Aussie105 10 hrs ago #7
And the use of "war" as a metaphor is perversion of language jfz9580m 1 hr ago #8

Aussie105

(7,833 posts)
7. War is expensive.
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
10 hrs ago

"World War II cost the United States approximately $296 billion in 1945 dollars, equivalent to over $4 trillion today, representing about 40% of the U.S. GDP at the war’s peak."

Human cost though, is a different number.
WW2 cost 295,790 in American soldiers' lives.
Between 70-85 million people all up.

War benefits a small but influential part of the human race, at massive costs in dollar and human lives.

But America loves wars, as the 'policeman of the world'.
Just overseas though, not on home turf. That wouldn't be fair. /s

jfz9580m

(16,932 posts)
8. And the use of "war" as a metaphor is perversion of language
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 06:16 AM
1 hr ago

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2026, 07:56 AM - Edit history (6)

It is very popular with those Zuckerberg and Marc Andreessen tech creep types.

Alison Taylor wrote a piece I found very useful during the bleakest years of my life about how corrupt institutions use metaphors of war and sports:
https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1076&context=public_integrity

I used to read that piece over and over for solace in 2016-2017, to convince myself I wasn’t insane, back when the media fawned over Facebook, Google etc and bullshitted about their hollow faux progressivism. I knew what they were. I won’t ever forget or forgive those hell years which culminated with the death of my mom and another 4 years of hell.

Taylor’s article has aged well. It is succinct and almost every word of it is gold just like this other brilliant piece by Ruth Cain from 2017 on mental health.

Another widely-referenced study discusses how corruption becomes “normalized” in organizations through three mutually reinforcing processes: institutionalization, rationalization, and socialization.

During institutionalization, a corrupt decision or act becomes embedded in corporate structures and processes.

During rationalization, self-serving ideologies develop that enable individuals to justify corrupt behavior. And finally, during
socialization, embedded systems and norms induce new employees to tolerate corruption and view it as permissible.

This model helps explain why individuals engage in corruption that would otherwise violate their internal moral framework. As the authors describe in a second article, “One of the most intriguing findings of the white-collar
crime literature is that corrupt individuals tend not to view themselves as corrupt.” Another sociological study elaborates on the self-rationalizing ideologies of corrupt organizations, including denial of responsibility, denial of injury, denial of the victim, and an appeal to higher loyalties (such as loyalty to co-workers).

Building off of this literature, my study found a highly consistent view of how a culture of corruption manifests within an organization.

Corruption seems most likely in organizations where growth is a fetish, insecurity is rampant, and high performance goes unquestioned. Rules and processes put in place to promote integrity may be
selectively enforced and easily evaded, as shown in many recent cases under anti-bribery statutes.

The Growth Fetish – When the Ends Justify the Means

Corporations exist to make money, grow revenue, and satisfy shareholders. Financial reports depend upon an inflexible quarterly calendar and budget targets that often assume continual growth. Many interviewees said that
firms that overwhelmingly emphasize growth are more vulnerable to misconduct. For example, Volkswagen’s push
to dominate North American markets in diesel vehicles contributed to unethical conduct by employees.

A culture that emphasizes that “the ends justify the means” may exacerbate this problem. Employees may face sales targets higher than industry peers, justified by the need for market dominance at any cost. As one interviewee
commented: “There are techniques to exaggerate the urgency and seriousness of the need to win—the sense that
‘this is what it takes to survive’—which short-circuits ethical reasoning.” Reducing corruption risk therefore requires an active emphasis on values and behaviors that consider how growth is achieved, not just whether it is achieved.
This may require creating an alternative narrative about corporate identity and success criteria, as well as a long-term commitment to ethics, sustainability, and engagement with all corporate stakeholders, not just investors.

Selective Blindness and Plausible Deniability

Interviewees agreed with regulators that leadership plays the most critical role in determining whether a firm’s
culture is vulnerable to corruption. Employees mirror leaders’ behavior, which can create group norms that tolerate corruption. Interviewees mentioned arrogance, complacency, and opacity as leadership traits that encourage corruption. FIFA President Sepp Blatter’s initial refusal to resign after the indictment of several high-level FIFA leaders is a recent example.

Leaders who set unrealistic targets based on opaque considerations yet keep themselves
personally disengaged with frontline operational concerns may implicitly encourage corrupt activities while maintaining plausible deniability. Autocratic command-and-control structures make employees fearful and reluctant to share concerns. One expert commented: “What people watch is whether management is doing anything to cook the books when they need to, which sets the tone that it’s okay to break a couple of rules to get things done.”

Complex Organizational Systems

The complexities of doing business across time zones, markets, and product lines have led companies to implement
organizational matrices and to diffuse responsibility. Shared responsibility may empower employees and improve
information flow, but must be complemented by clear lines of accountability. Otherwise, corruption will always be “someone else’s problem.” The General Motors ignition switch scandal presents an example of managers failing to make overall connections in the absence of clear responsibilities for organizational risk. An organizational change expert who worked in the energy sector argued: “Much literature concerns a mythical ethical man making decisions with the facts in front of him; this isn’t real. The realities of hierarchy mean that thriving in an organization involves suppressing bad news, which means that taking responsibility is hazardous. The
decision maker checks only that the paperwork is complete, and those who complete the paperwork are relieved of responsibility for the decision—then everyone is protected individually, but it can add up to widespread harm.”

High Pressure and High Rewards

Companies that pressure employees to meet high sales targets through rewards and penalties that disregard ethical
considerations are more vulnerable to corruption. Many firms facing bribery charges, such as GlaxoSmithKline in China, used sales-based compensation schemes that failed to account for local market conditions.

If one sales team hits unreasonable targets by paying bribes, all teams feel pressure to cut
corners, creating vicious competition that escalates misbehavior.


Except it is not just denial of the victim, it can be active demonization of the victim as mentally ill, an addict, themselves somehow compromised.

It is vicious to the core and the number of people who passively or actively support it to the bitter end (even some decent people..can’t entirely blame them..who would want to go up against these mobsters who was not personally harassed to the point of losing all patience?) has taught me that no one will pitch in seriously who is a part of that network. One has to do it oneself.

I owe it to my friends, colleagues and doctors since they are not corrupt, but normal humans who don’t want to be fired in this bleak hiring landscape. As Jon Stewart said about Al Sharpton, only someone with no prospects can do it.

I fully support my own 3 labs, a sundry random scientist I bumped into from a large, unwieldy and casually managed lab headed up by another of those dazed by actual responsibility types of pis (small is beautiful), doctors (oncologist/oncology nurse) especially.

I know they don’t lack integrity and it was an added annoyance that one might end up as the beagle that ass Marjorie Greene sheds crocodile tears over..Beaglegate 2.0-now with humans!

Dr. Fauci did not deserve that. I chose publicly funded hard science over and over as it is one of the least corrupt professions out there by and large whatever RetractionWatch or Ioannidis tell you. Because the fraud rates are still very low (much like the rewards) unlike the private sector. And it is just disgraceful to shill Google “agents” and other such rot that just make work harder. Those are joke “ethics”. Is there any concept these guys will not pervert?

Errors are made by all humans. But which ones a society obsessively focuses on tells you a lot about the society. Deregulation in defense contracting and the private sector with punishing levels of surveillance of relatively modestly and far more commensurately or even underpaid public sector workers, doctors and publicly funded scientists of the least sleazy and social climbing types is the goal.

Blackstone Inc which is taking over hospitals in my corrupt state is another matter.

This was the best piece I ever read on this bullshit of claiming random people are mentally ill using the Reefer Madness playbook.

As a marijuana user I was very vulnerable to such parasitic “care” and cringey “humor” no doubt. I feel sorry for the doctors..and “The Citadel” should be required reading for medical students as they navigate the corrupting siren songs of these tech companies as workloads explode on this overpopulated hell planet:

https://theconversation.com/how-neoliberalism-is-damaging-your-mental-health-90565

Who wants the validation of corrupt hospitals for some sort of rubber stamped legalization of marijuana as opposed to the honest thing?

It is very lucrative for corrupt hospitals (as distinct from individual typically honest medical doctors) pushing some kind of mapping or coercive therapy and other bullshit.

And Human Terrain Systems was a perfect example of how ideas with some potential get corrupted by deregulation. I am not surprised that it collapsed under the weight of sexual harassment and fraud allegations. The times I was sexually or otherwise harassed it was a defense contractor and another gig worker type is my guess. Employees with decent working conditions and stable jobs are probably less likely to behave like that.

The crowning insult was proliferation of corrupt “street art” shilling harassment as a “wake up call”, when I have been awake since 2011 and steadily losing patience.

Give me back my street/home/neighborhood is my clarion call to these parasitic creeps and the corrupt data scientists and researchers behind them.

Chris Ketcham gets it. Ecotourism, influence etc are industries I loathe. But no amount of damage to someone else’s life or resources can bring shame to these types:

https://www.christopherketcham.com/hyper-visitation-the-fate-of-the-national-parks-and-tourism-takeover-in-a-small-town/

This sort of thing in okay in the US. Not in a corrupt state like mine. I do not know how to be more clear than that. Let this state and these systems do the bare fucking minimum of common human decency before forcing trashy “smart” projects.

And that with no knowledge by any but the most corrupt locals and some Indians who don’t even live here.

No one my family or I would have anything to do with in India would participate in this trash.
I use marijuana at my own risk. It isn’t a sleazy quid pro quo. And I alert my mj company which provides an honest service at a reasonable price (though now I go through the larger outlet since I suppose I am too high risk on the short term as a patient..I feel bad as that probably eats into my small mj company’s profits).

These kinds of people live in the US and shit over here. This creepy guy Ragy Thomas was a perfect example. I am infuriated. It is culturally blind. A fucking fusion of the worst of both cultures. An embarassment to everything:

https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2025/01/23/from-lidar-to-ai-vanderbilt-is-helping-redefine-nashvilles-traffic/

In my state this is going to result in harassment and malpractice charges. This is a sleepy little town and you won’t drive a disgraceful race to the bottom further and gloss over. I can retort to a person I met with “you must have mistaken me for someone else.”
(The lights keep blinking off and on and something just fell outside).

I read this piece in 2014 and liked it. Never expected it to get this personal:

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2014/sep/26/fake-street-art-sucks-perrier-replaces-williamsburgs-nelson-mandela-mural-with-huge-advertisement

This model of globalization will only stop when Indians like who are nothing like Steve Bannon or Tucker Carlson start to push back.
These are the worst people.

Chris Ketcham gets it. He is left. He is not a corporate consultant shilling a sweatshop labor and stupidity built fraudulent (and rickety) “bridge” that destroys any actual affection or respect in communities and enriches people like these:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/private-equity-reduces-patient-care-enriching-investors-senate-report-rcna186636

Job thought boils were bad..he should see the shit I have seen. I wouldn’t say boils are better but at least its a tie at this point.

Not one of those pieces is from a shady or questionable source (though I should download all the pieces over the years that went towards forming my worldview about corruption of this type in these hell years as I gear up to pushback. There is a cloying level of inter-group solidarity among all these fraudulent and conniving hucksters. And the leadership that is not outright corrupt still never offered any meaningful support or had common decency or shame. The least they can do now is not embarass themselves further. I would be really pissed off if the people I would blame the least got thrown under the bus as I was and the worst -people I never knew or at most briefly around 2011-2014 - continue to skate. What is with these guys?

This should set the gold standard in medical data and exploitation of disposable, non voluntary human research subjects like yours truly. Medicine is not an area to scam people peddling gaming, retaliation and harassment to force marijuana users into degrading shit as the system sits around best case going “durrrrr”.
They never did their jobs. These admin types. At least they can back off:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/university-north-texas-corpses-dissected-unclaimed-bodies-rcna170478

The always execrable NYT talks about this sleazy guy Mitesh Bohra in this piece. Most of these are Graeber’s bullshit jobs. It is this why pervasive trash will result in a court case I file here in India targeting every participant I found objectionable, which would be most of them.
I really have to ask..does no one have any shame?

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/17/data-crunching-is-coming-to-help-your-boss-manage-your-time.html

I read that in disgust when it came out. There was another one about gamification in the workplace. That absolute creep Alex Pentland, now fittingly at the eternally sleazy Stanford, has a bunch of creepy little surveillance as a service companies: Cogito etc.
Shoshana Zuboff did a good job of dissecting Pentland. Ben Waber is another such creep (Humanyze)
With this creepy Google guy who wouldn’t recognize a conflict of interest if it bit him in the ass, Thomas Insel, guys like Pentland and those sleazy people Andy Ng and that Woebot woman muck around in mental health while that creepy Sebastian Thrun shilled subpar edtech at some point much like his local creepy counterpart Byju Raveendran. It is a ball of sleazy, corrupt special interests commodifying and perverting human life and breaking the web of life, with conspiracy theorists on their own lousy platforms like Facebook deflecting from the precise issues mangling the human brain or the web of life with no expertise, common sense or oversight, which is then used as a strawman attack on serious complainants.

Someone with a brain should help these idiots out and teach them to separate gray areas like private marijuana use in your own room (and fuck your sleazy “fall monitoring”. The pretense of concern is the truly disgusting part).
Dr.Fauci cares..these fuckers are parasites. I plan the harshest and most draconian legal pushback possible locally. Other people can foul up their own countries. I don’t want this shit in my street. This isn’t a corrupt, creepy, sleazy Si Valley stronghold. Thank you very much. It is a corrupt, creepy, sleazy communist stronghold. What do you take us for?
We have our very own local creepy, corrupt indigenous low and high tech perverts. Why the fuck would we want imported low and high tech, non local, corrupt perverts?
This kind of fusion is not recommended.
Equal opportunity pervert bashing rights! Not which of these foul sleazy cults would I like to be a part of ..
I have been informed that I can be negative. I contend that everyone else is “addicted” (a favorite canard used to shove randoms into shitty hells) to rose-colored glasses.

I have been watching this wretched stuff grow in vociferous and often incoherent indignation for 14 years and have had enough.

Besides, if one doesn’t, based on this crowd so far, this will be their next move and this not being a sad Diplomacy Game but the real world, a trail highlighting potential retaliation is essential.

India is generally pretty cool. But people like these behave like this:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kozhikode/NITC-lets-off-guilty-prof-with-warning/articleshow/34659859.cms
(That guy is a friend of the creepy defense contractor who sexually harassed me. My dad dislikes that creep and was unhappy when I started visiting this creep’s lab to learn some optics at a time when I was dazed and embittered after my last job. Within three months he sexually harassed me and I sent a crazy email to my really cool postdoc mentor saying I wanted to retract all my work. Such bs. I would not retract a single piece of my work, but I was being endlessly punished those days..which is fine..I am pretty hardy and it has only left me certain that this must never fly. But in my confused state I thought retracting all my work and dropping out of society would make it stop.)

This was my former employer’s strategy in the US..attack, slander and retaliate is the playbook. The less tribal, the more difficult and more solitary the human the better. And I never even complained mind you. I was just trying to leave and escape, which I now perceive as the type of thing they could use for their stupid blackmailing ai agent bullshit so that shamblog guy can whine 🙄:
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/attempt-to-intimidate-experts-worried-over-serum-institute-s-rs-100-crore-lawsuit-against-vaccine-volunteer-1745598-2020-12-01
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