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Duncanpup

(14,432 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 05:26 AM Thursday

Found old Union driver paystubs from 1989. They outlawed slavery and gave us right to work.

This is no bragging I’m not built that way it is just pure disgust in that wages have not kept pace for the middle class.
As a union combo man in 1989 which is dock work and delivering local freight pick up and delivery i made $15.85 hour anytime after 8 hours time half anything over forty hours time half back then as today working under union card.

I had to work those local bids as back then because as truck driver you had to be twenty three years old to cross state lines.
And at age twenty four i did go line haul in running terminal going out of state.
Where you go from your terminal to foreign terminal in different state then go on rest bed in hotel then go back out that night.

And at that company and in that time Bush recession early 90’s i didn’t have seniority to run turn bids where you’re leaving you freight barn going out grabbing freight to return home daily.

So i looked up what wage you would need to make in $2025 to compare for inflation from 1989 the websites i looked at.
Today in 2025 you would need to be making between $38 to $42 hourly was the two websites i looked at.

So i looked up several Non union carriers hourly start wage today for city combo man anywhere between $26 to $33 hourly.
The one non union carrier all straight time no time half the other carrier time half after forty five hours.
And there is no eight hour days in freight usually ten to fourteen hours a day.
Yea they outlawed slavery and replaced it with right to work.
When i started if i remember there was maybe 30 union carriers today maybe three left in L.T.L freight. And maybe four union carriers left on the grocery side not sure on fuel haulers maybe some car haulers still organized.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25 hour since 2009 all of this we can trace back to Reagan.
I remember how freight crashed in Dubya Great Recession big layoffs in union freight I remember then being offered a job driving non union.

Fortunately i was in position that i declined that job. Yet the irony was if i took the non union driving job I’d been making around the same cash as i was on unemployment.

I do not know what point I’m trying to make in this dyslexic terrible punctuation ramble yet I’m just as you thinking W.T.F. And we have been on the receiving end of trickledown for decades.
And the republicans have bled us dry and now we have come to the point there is no blood left let’s take the middle class off of life support shut off the oxygen pull the plug.
Here is something that will screw up your head space and timing.

A fellow union freight guy mentioned at a breakfast for retirees and active union workers in freight.
In that this new round tax cuts Trump and repigs pushing will really help us.
And he followed it up with all the cash will be making because of tariffs tax we will soon stop having to pay income taxes.
I replied to him go work scab why do you even pay two hours union dues a month because the bullshit that just came out of your mouth makes me wanna stab you in your throat with my breakfast fork.

Have a great day D.U. Community well try to and the word of the day is.
TARRYFYING.

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Found old Union driver paystubs from 1989. They outlawed slavery and gave us right to work. (Original Post) Duncanpup Thursday OP
I have some union (UAW) paystubs from '66. They failed to outlaw slavery, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Thursday #1
I just want to say that your perspectives in every area about which... NNadir Thursday #2
I was in the crawl space replacing some nob and tube wireing with romex, Prairie_Seagull Thursday #3
When I was a kid in the '60s, my brother & friends were all in HS & every one of them worked part-time & easily afforded SheltieLover Thursday #4
So-called "right to work" is such a crock. 🙄 ShazzieB Friday #5

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,118 posts)
1. I have some union (UAW) paystubs from '66. They failed to outlaw slavery, ...
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:30 AM
Thursday

... as i was drafted a few months after getting that fine job.

Solidarity forever.

NNadir

(35,789 posts)
2. I just want to say that your perspectives in every area about which...
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:08 AM
Thursday

...you write, family, work, and culture, and of course the dog, are enlightening and rich. I often find myself discussing your posts with my wife, who has nothing to do with DU.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,188 posts)
3. I was in the crawl space replacing some nob and tube wireing with romex,
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:32 AM
Thursday

found some neatly nailed pay-stubs to a floor joist. Pay stubs were from a Todd shipyard union worker in Seattle. I don't remember all years present except 75. (Was 30 years ago). This man made what they call 'bank' compared to today's workers. Hard, nasty, dangerous work. I worked for the port and did better than just OK myself. Bethlehem steel, Todd shipyard, and Port of Seattle and of course Boeing partly built and supported West Seattle and other neighborhoods surely. I bought a home in WS 40 years ago and recently sold for 1.1 million. Paid 40K.

This was how wealth was built for the working man back in the day IMO

Wage slavery is real and flourishing by design.

I am happy and financially doing quite well in retirement. (present political situation excepted)

I advised one of my daughters boyfriend to join a union, he did, the electricians Union and makes 150k last I heard. That was many years ago, I am sure it's even better now.

Who cares what color ones collar is, if we can take good care of our families and have a few beers now and then.

Thank dog for unions

SheltieLover

(67,739 posts)
4. When I was a kid in the '60s, my brother & friends were all in HS & every one of them worked part-time & easily afforded
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:54 AM
Thursday

brand new cars, working at burger joints that charged 15-cents for a fast food burger!

And they were very nice brand new cars, Mustangs, Camaros, roadrunners, Cutlasses, etc.

Something is very , very wrong with this country, but this is why I refer to it as the United States of Extortion.

IMO, the repuke party should be deemed a comestic terrorist organization as they have done, and continue to do, much more harm to our country than any other.

ShazzieB

(20,570 posts)
5. So-called "right to work" is such a crock. 🙄
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:10 AM
Friday

My husband worked in manufacturing for tears, never in a union shop. Some of his employers treated workers fairly well, but others were real salt mines. It was a complete crap shoot.

One of my other pet peeves is "employment on demand," which imo should called "UNemployment on demand." I can remember (barely) when the phrase job security" wasn't an oxymoron. Times have changed, and not for the better.

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