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multigraincracker

(35,617 posts)
Sun May 11, 2025, 12:03 PM 23 hrs ago

Bring back abortion as approved in the Bible Numbers 5:11-31

THE God approved abortion

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

Now we can legalize and moderniize into a pill form. If it causes an innocent woman to miscarriage, That would be Gods will.

Or is this a Godless nation that ignores the Bible?

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Bring back abortion as approved in the Bible Numbers 5:11-31 (Original Post) multigraincracker 23 hrs ago OP
well - that is about as convoluted and contorted stopdiggin 23 hrs ago #1
Only a suggest to White Christian Nationalist. multigraincracker 23 hrs ago #2
Hey, try this one all against abortion for religious reasons... essaynnc 23 hrs ago #3
the Bible seems clear the Life, when one becomes human, is with the first breath. The breath of life multigraincracker 23 hrs ago #4
They're not teaching now what they used to. Jeebo 22 hrs ago #5
Authoritarian. multigraincracker 21 hrs ago #7
The Numbers passage is an approved method nilram 22 hrs ago #6
1+ Norrrm 21 hrs ago #8

stopdiggin

(13,667 posts)
1. well - that is about as convoluted and contorted
Sun May 11, 2025, 12:13 PM
23 hrs ago

as it seems possible to be.
(we're somehow claiming this as an 'endorsement' of miscarriage and abortion? Wow!)

essaynnc

(906 posts)
3. Hey, try this one all against abortion for religious reasons...
Sun May 11, 2025, 12:30 PM
23 hrs ago

Exodus 21:22–25

Here’s the passage (in the ESV for clarity):

"When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine.
But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life,
eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

multigraincracker

(35,617 posts)
4. the Bible seems clear the Life, when one becomes human, is with the first breath. The breath of life
Sun May 11, 2025, 12:39 PM
23 hrs ago

is mentioned many times and never said it begins at conception.

Jeebo

(2,419 posts)
5. They're not teaching now what they used to.
Sun May 11, 2025, 01:17 PM
22 hrs ago

I grew up Southern Baptist in the 1950s and 1960s in Georgia and Alabama. My father, in fact, was a Southern Baptist preacher. In Sunday School classes I remember discussions about the issue of when a person's life begins. It was always at birth, when the doctor slapped the newborn infant's behind to get its respiration started and God breathed the breath of life into the child. That's also when the soul enters the body of the newborn infant.

That's what we were taught back then, in the Southern Baptist Sunday School classes I went to, when I was a kid in the 1950s and 1960s. I still vividly remember those discussions now. But that's not what they teach now! They subtly changed their teachings, apparently after Roe v. Wade, and started teaching that "life begins at conception" instead.

Another issue that's connected with this one: If they believe that abortion "murders babies", then why don't they promote contraceptives? Use an effective contraceptive and you prevent conception from happening at all, and there is no fetus or fertilized egg or "baby" there to "murder" at all. Yet, they fight tooth and nail against contraceptives just as they do against a medical procedure that they claim "kills babies". So what are they REALLY trying to stop? It seems to me that they're trying to keep people from having sex. They're TRYING to make sex fraught with all kinds of burdensome consequences, INCLUDING unwanted pregnancies.

What they want is for sex to ALWAYS be within marriage, between a man and a woman who are married to each other and nobody else for their entire adult lives, under the covers, with the lights out, and only ONCE for each child that married couple has. And even then, they're NEVER allowed to enjoy it. It's just a nasty procreative duty. That's the puritanical attitude that was drummed into me when I was a kid — very subtly, but there it was.

— Ron

multigraincracker

(35,617 posts)
7. Authoritarian.
Sun May 11, 2025, 01:45 PM
21 hrs ago

Many churches and governments(like our current one) love to control our lives. I belong to a UU fellowship and they are more interested in asking questions and not giving guidance. There are a few that are liberal. They are not all bad, depending on what think.

nilram

(3,177 posts)
6. The Numbers passage is an approved method
Sun May 11, 2025, 01:38 PM
22 hrs ago

carried out by priests. The Exodus passage speaks against violence towards women by men in general. The point of the OP is that there is an approved method for ending a pregnancy in the Bible, for those who care.

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