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MineralMan

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12. You are correct, of course.

Sun May 11, 2025, 10:20 AM

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I use the term because it is in wide use.

The real question is whether there can actually be true artificial intelligence. Personally, I think not, since true intelligence is the product of a sentient being. I've not seen evidence of progress toward making computers sentient.

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Remember When Wikipedia Was Considered Suspect? [View all] MineralMan Yesterday OP

What happens when AI starts using itself as its source material? Ocelot II Yesterday #1

Yes, indeed. MineralMan Yesterday #5

What could happen is what's called "model collapse" - which there have been warnings about for years: highplainsdem Yesterday #17

Over multiple iterations the errors get larger and the facts become overwhelmed. erronis Yesterday #24

Wikipedia still is suspect. Nothing has really changed over the years. n/t valleyrogue Yesterday #2

It's been years since I found a suspect source. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #10

Wikipedia BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #13

Point something out. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #14

How about this? TheRickles Yesterday #22

Okay you may have something there, but it also points out the revision process restores a lot of it Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #27

I still occasionally find circular Wikipedia source citations muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #37

Can happen. Complex subject matter is difficult to master and difficult to untangle. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #42

The professional organization of practitioners of this therapy gave up trying to influence Wikipedia. TheRickles Yesterday #39

Such as? BeerBarrelPolka Yesterday #63

Every spoken or written word is suspect. That's human nature. hunter Yesterday #19

That's my position also. The "Talk" and revision pages are valuable in their own right. erronis Yesterday #25

It is still "suspect." It's just that, like you say, you can generally check their sources...nt Wounded Bear Yesterday #3

I do occasionally. It's been years since I found a suspect source. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #11

Ai reformats work done by others samsingh Yesterday #4

One day per week Turbineguy Yesterday #6

IMO, AI is an amazing innovation anciano Yesterday #7

Current AI is Generative AI, not true AI. It doesn't reason, it makes stuff that looks reasonable. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #8

I call it fAI for fakeAI. Calling it AI is such a joke. CrispyQ Yesterday #9

You are correct, of course. MineralMan Yesterday #12

Define sentience Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #16

This is similar to what has been done to bridge the "Uncanny Valley" in visuals. erronis Yesterday #28

Well, I consider artificial intelligence to be equivalent to MineralMan Yesterday #31

Okay, a bit of a start to definition Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #36

OK. Definitions can be difficult when the subject is abstract. MineralMan Yesterday #48

Good story and kudos to you. But you draw the wrong lesson and there are counters Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #51

Oh, I'm not saying that what they're calling AI will not be a useful tool. MineralMan Yesterday #52

I think you may have deep seated mystical beliefs preventing you from recognizing all its forms Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #56

Not mystical at all. MineralMan Yesterday #61

I'm open to the possibility that we've created an environment where AI could come about, CrispyQ Yesterday #21

I agree. What's this? Highlight Look Up Wikipedia underpants Yesterday #15

"starting point to other references" is exactly how it should be used RandomNumbers Yesterday #30

Steve Pruitt has a lot of time on his hands. underpants Yesterday #18

"AI" is not just another Silicon Valley gold rush Ponzi-oid investment bubble... paulkienitz Yesterday #20

If they have so much confidence in it, the first task we should assign AI is climate change. CrispyQ Yesterday #23

The #1 fix to climate change* is population reduction RandomNumbers Yesterday #34

That's the #1 overly simplistic fix, not the #1 realistic fix Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #38

"WEF and "globohomo" ??? RandomNumbers Yesterday #45

WEF is World Economic Foundation. "Globohomo" is the nutty concept that globalists and homosexuals are aligned Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #53

Ah, thank you. As usual, a "right wing talking point" is idiotic RandomNumbers Yesterday #58

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #55

Your exact words: RandomNumbers Yesterday #60

Contraceptive and abortion rights were never "active reduction". Exercising them is active prevention, not reduction Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #64

Oh yes, the 8 billion pound elephant in the room. CrispyQ Yesterday #44

Thank you. I blame lack of science education RandomNumbers Yesterday #49

"The thing is, we might still be able to turn things around relatively humanely..." CrispyQ Yesterday #65

Totally agree. RandomNumbers 23 hrs ago #66

The potential is enormous, so is the danger. Joinfortmill Yesterday #26

I was recently going through the history of the moniss Yesterday #29

First off, AI is a tool... Much like a calculator JCMach1 Yesterday #32

Then, it is misnamed. MineralMan Yesterday #33

thanks for that explanation of your use of these tools. Real life applications are helpful. erronis Yesterday #35

The free to use baked in stuff is largely trash JCMach1 Yesterday #40

Ed Zitron and Cory Doctorow will agree. erronis Yesterday #46

In both your examples you are manipulating language... hunter Yesterday #50

It's problematic when legit news media cites AI written content as a source IronLionZion Yesterday #41

Wikipedia can be a useful starting point, but only that. And yes, generative AI slop is a growing problem there. Eugene Yesterday #43

AI (GPT) IS A TOOL. Layzeebeaver Yesterday #47

I agree The Bot's make up word salads. Historic NY Yesterday #54

Yes, sometimes they do. MineralMan Yesterday #57

I perfer Language Tool Historic NY Yesterday #59

Yes, AI is a tool, and probably a useful one. MineralMan Yesterday #62