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Initech

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34. Well, to win the election, we have to break free of the 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about.

Sun May 11, 2025, 09:07 PM

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Which is of course the "We report, you decide" network - Fox News. If we don't go after them hard, they will steal another election and the one after that. And the one after that. We must fight them with everything we have.

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Should Democrats pin their 2028 hopes on the "safest white boy"? [View all] TheProle Yesterday OP

That was basically Biden in 2020. Seemed to work out at first... SSJVegeta Yesterday #1

You would have to add 'age under 70' to the list. NT anamnua 21 hrs ago #20

Could help SSJVegeta 20 hrs ago #25

You would have to add 'age under 80' to the list Polybius 17 hrs ago #63

and I could see UNTIL IT DIDN'T from the start Skittles 20 hrs ago #26

Yeah... hopefully that mistake is not repeated. SSJVegeta 20 hrs ago #27

Well, to win the election, we have to break free of the 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about. Initech 20 hrs ago #34

The demographic who decided the last election, and will decide the next election, Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #72

There's definitely a special place in hell for Jill Stein and RFK Jr. Initech 16 hrs ago #74

Jill Rfk WHO ?? Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #75

Well, Jill Stein only shows up every four years to fuck with elections and that's it. Initech 15 hrs ago #78

The only two high level Democrats who have been able to rise above their Cosmocat 9 hrs ago #84

Should have been content with one term exboyfil 6 hrs ago #101

Sadly, yes synni Yesterday #2

Unless there is a "the one" mr715 Yesterday #9

I don't think he came out of nowhere. Mossfern 22 hrs ago #15

I don't think we were alone in thinking that. N/T elocs 21 hrs ago #18

Sorta kinda mr715 21 hrs ago #24

Yeah you're right mr715 21 hrs ago #23

i remember that night here on du. mopinko 20 hrs ago #35

True but that was the kind of "A superstar just fell into our laps" moment that a party can't count on happening Midwestern Democrat 18 hrs ago #59

There's always Michelle. InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #37

I knew someone who worked for her and said there was NO WAY she would run spooky3 19 hrs ago #54

Sadly, mr715 19 hrs ago #58

Yeah, too bad... Michelle would be a shoe-in. InAbLuEsTaTe 9 hrs ago #86

Further, I think President Obama knows better than to nudge her one bit. Prairie_Seagull 6 hrs ago #99

Maybe our new Chicagoan Pope could could have a word. Prairie_Seagull 6 hrs ago #100

It's imperative for Democrats to win in '28. Pick a safe but exciting straight, white male candidate. elocs 21 hrs ago #16

Rep. Jamie Raskin comes to mind, but IIRC a Congressmen becoming... brush 11 hrs ago #80

Heck, I am just trying to get through the 2026 midterms Raven123 Yesterday #3

Focus on this. Biden built on the Blue Wave of 2018. Make a Blue Storm Surge of 2026 Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #5

I'm afraid this is correct Freddie Yesterday #4

I disagree Shrek 20 hrs ago #32

Clinton would have won outright in 2008 Polybius 17 hrs ago #64

I completely disagree... can name 3 excellent women as potential candidates in 3 seconds!! InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #38

AOC for sure Polybius 17 hrs ago #66

She might win in NY, but she would never carry swing states, imo SheltieLover 16 hrs ago #76

I personally like AOC a lot Cosmocat 9 hrs ago #85

That's one!! InAbLuEsTaTe 9 hrs ago #87

A correct, but incomplete statement DFW 16 hrs ago #73

The problem isn't' the women Bettie 6 hrs ago #97

If that's what happens it happens. JanMichael Yesterday #6

Who do you think she is referring to? Ars Longa 19 hrs ago #48

Just a person that has an X and Y chromosome Bluestocking Yesterday #7

You're assuming that Obama would run again, an assumption I think is in doubt. elocs 21 hrs ago #19

Shamed mr715 Yesterday #8

It is imperative that Democrats win in '28 & that means picking the candidate most likely to win. elocs 23 hrs ago #10

Obama had a clear message Earl_from_PA 22 hrs ago #12

And Obama was a moderate, not perceived as a lefty liberal. He was NOT a Bernie Sanders. elocs 22 hrs ago #14

Only once in my lifetime has a party won three presidential elections in a row MichMan 19 hrs ago #40

In 2007 the economy was crashing. markodochartaigh 15 hrs ago #77

It was "imperative" for the Democrats to win in 2024 . . . GulfofMexico 7 hrs ago #93

'24 has come and gone so its being imperative is irrelevant now. elocs 3 hrs ago #111

I'm sorry, but Kamala Harris won this election. It was rigged: Trump said so ahead of time, he said Musk told him so, BComplex 23 hrs ago #11

Kamala absolutely won. It's not how people vote, but who counts the votes. SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #13

Zero doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe 20 hrs ago #39

... SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #45

Can you explain why Trump's the worst thing to happen to America in recent history and yet Democrats are polling behind? Doodley 19 hrs ago #51

Kamala and Tim was a great ticket. taxi 19 hrs ago #55

This Ferrets are Cool 17 hrs ago #62

A lot of Democrats would have had to have aided in that Kaleva 10 hrs ago #82

I disagree. I don't think Democrats actually "aided" in making trump president. I just think they were BComplex 7 hrs ago #92

I don't think it has to be a white guy EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #17

Play it safe is not gonna cut it...a progressive fighter who touches the hearts and minds of the American people will!! InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #41

A safe choice won't help in the face of Republican cheating. Chemical Bill 21 hrs ago #21

The following boxes will have to be ticked: anamnua 21 hrs ago #22

I think RandySF 20 hrs ago #28

Republicans are not the only people who can go backwards. Turbineguy 20 hrs ago #29

There are no "white" democrats in the running. multigraincracker 20 hrs ago #30

Playing it safe will result in a loss. Morbius 20 hrs ago #31

He lost because he was 'swiftboated'. NT anamnua 19 hrs ago #42

I will grant the "Swiftboating" didn't help. Morbius 19 hrs ago #49

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #43

So how did Biden win in 2020? Polybius 17 hrs ago #67

Please not Newsom! WhiteTara 20 hrs ago #33

No, but Pritzger would be phenomenal! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #47

agreed WhiteTara 19 hrs ago #53

Obv, not my choice to make, bug I feel it's critical to have a candidate SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #56

Lets HOPE we even have a Presidential election in 2028. NoMoreRepugs 20 hrs ago #36

Now THERE'S something to think about!! InAbLuEsTaTe 19 hrs ago #44

Looks like low key 'Bad Things About Democrats' from here. Kingofalldems 19 hrs ago #46

I don't think it is a good idea AZProgressive 19 hrs ago #50

We better not re-run 2024 Historic NY 19 hrs ago #52

I think it's a matter of giving the people what they want. If that's who they will support... pnwest 19 hrs ago #57

Race and safety are the wrong things to focus on. Renew Deal 18 hrs ago #60

Too obvious PeterIsMyBrother 18 hrs ago #61

Will diversity be important in a Vichy government? jalan48 17 hrs ago #65

If Jasmine Crockett believes that, she is more than welcome to try and run herself in 2028 Polybius 17 hrs ago #68

No, the person who is going to win... JCMach1 17 hrs ago #69

We should no more be looking for the "safest white boy" than we should be specifically looking for someone who is Ms. Toad 17 hrs ago #70

Quite possibly on a 'white boy', or at least a 'boy'... Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #71

"I'd vote for the safest white boy, just not THAT safest white boy." betsuni 12 hrs ago #79

IF there are elections in '28. That is remarkably hopeful for the pessimistic DU. elocs 11 hrs ago #81

I hate it, but yes. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #83

I'm for whoever makes it through the primary Buckeyeblue 9 hrs ago #88

how about we just focus on having a mid term election right now? nt Javaman 9 hrs ago #89

christian, married straight white guy lindysalsagal 8 hrs ago #90

Whether we like it or not, Trump is revolutionary Iris 8 hrs ago #91

I would go for Chris Murphy in a heartbeat. I think the important thing is we not exclude travelingthrulife 7 hrs ago #94

I've spent so much money supporting women candidates ecstatic 7 hrs ago #95

No, they don't have to do that, but what we should not do is nominate someone who is polarizing. everyonematters 7 hrs ago #96

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone,,,,,,,,,,,, Ping Tung 6 hrs ago #98

This time we need to vote to win at all costs. My principle right now is to save our Democracy from these fascists. Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #104

Not a fan of that kind of dismissive language.... Happy Hoosier 5 hrs ago #102

Rep Crockett is one of our best voices these days. So no, she doesn't. Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #103

I like her. But if she's looking to aleinate people like me, she's succeeding. Happy Hoosier 5 hrs ago #105

The words "white boy" have alienated you, and therefore we'll lose? Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #106

If a "White Boy" had campaigned like Kamala JI7 4 hrs ago #107

This. A disturbing amount of sexism and racism is coming from inside the house. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #108

The power brokers need to stay out of this TheFarseer 4 hrs ago #109

If they want to get the white-boy votes stillcool 4 hrs ago #110