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92. I disagree. I don't think Democrats actually "aided" in making trump president. I just think they were

Mon May 12, 2025, 09:26 AM

May 12

too embarrassed to claim the election was "stolen" because of the fuss that the republicans had made the election before. They made a fool out of the saying the election was stolen. They successfully made the whole thing a clown show. Democrats were stuck. I think they still are.

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Should Democrats pin their 2028 hopes on the "safest white boy"? [View all] TheProle May 11 OP

That was basically Biden in 2020. Seemed to work out at first... SSJVegeta May 11 #1

You would have to add 'age under 70' to the list. NT anamnua May 11 #20

Could help SSJVegeta May 11 #25

You would have to add 'age under 80' to the list Polybius May 11 #63

and I could see UNTIL IT DIDN'T from the start Skittles May 11 #26

Yeah... hopefully that mistake is not repeated. SSJVegeta May 11 #27

Well, to win the election, we have to break free of the 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about. Initech May 11 #34

The demographic who decided the last election, and will decide the next election, Jack Valentino May 12 #72

There's definitely a special place in hell for Jill Stein and RFK Jr. Initech May 12 #74

Jill Rfk WHO ?? Jack Valentino May 12 #75

Well, Jill Stein only shows up every four years to fuck with elections and that's it. Initech May 12 #78

The only two high level Democrats who have been able to rise above their Cosmocat May 12 #84

Should have been content with one term exboyfil May 12 #101

Sadly, yes synni May 11 #2

Unless there is a "the one" mr715 May 11 #9

I don't think he came out of nowhere. Mossfern May 11 #15

I don't think we were alone in thinking that. N/T elocs May 11 #18

Sorta kinda mr715 May 11 #24

Yeah you're right mr715 May 11 #23

i remember that night here on du. mopinko May 11 #35

True but that was the kind of "A superstar just fell into our laps" moment that a party can't count on happening Midwestern Democrat May 11 #59

There's always Michelle. InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #37

I knew someone who worked for her and said there was NO WAY she would run spooky3 May 11 #54

Sadly, mr715 May 11 #58

Yeah, too bad... Michelle would be a shoe-in. InAbLuEsTaTe May 12 #86

Further, I think President Obama knows better than to nudge her one bit. Prairie_Seagull May 12 #99

Maybe our new Chicagoan Pope could could have a word. Prairie_Seagull May 12 #100

It's imperative for Democrats to win in '28. Pick a safe but exciting straight, white male candidate. elocs May 11 #16

Rep. Jamie Raskin comes to mind, but IIRC a Congressmen becoming... brush May 12 #80

Heck, I am just trying to get through the 2026 midterms Raven123 May 11 #3

Focus on this. Biden built on the Blue Wave of 2018. Make a Blue Storm Surge of 2026 Bernardo de La Paz May 11 #5

I'm afraid this is correct Freddie May 11 #4

I disagree Shrek May 11 #32

Clinton would have won outright in 2008 Polybius May 11 #64

I completely disagree... can name 3 excellent women as potential candidates in 3 seconds!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #38

AOC for sure Polybius May 11 #66

She might win in NY, but she would never carry swing states, imo SheltieLover May 12 #76

I personally like AOC a lot Cosmocat May 12 #85

That's one!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 12 #87

A correct, but incomplete statement DFW May 12 #73

The problem isn't' the women Bettie May 12 #97

If that's what happens it happens. JanMichael May 11 #6

Who do you think she is referring to? Ars Longa May 11 #48

Just a person that has an X and Y chromosome Bluestocking May 11 #7

You're assuming that Obama would run again, an assumption I think is in doubt. elocs May 11 #19

Shamed mr715 May 11 #8

It is imperative that Democrats win in '28 & that means picking the candidate most likely to win. elocs May 11 #10

Obama had a clear message Earl_from_PA May 11 #12

And Obama was a moderate, not perceived as a lefty liberal. He was NOT a Bernie Sanders. elocs May 11 #14

Only once in my lifetime has a party won three presidential elections in a row MichMan May 11 #40

In 2007 the economy was crashing. markodochartaigh May 12 #77

It was "imperative" for the Democrats to win in 2024 . . . GulfofMexico May 12 #93

'24 has come and gone so its being imperative is irrelevant now. elocs May 12 #111

I'm sorry, but Kamala Harris won this election. It was rigged: Trump said so ahead of time, he said Musk told him so, BComplex May 11 #11

Kamala absolutely won. It's not how people vote, but who counts the votes. SheltieLover May 11 #13

Zero doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #39

... SheltieLover May 11 #45

Can you explain why Trump's the worst thing to happen to America in recent history and yet Democrats are polling behind? Doodley May 11 #51

Kamala and Tim was a great ticket. taxi May 11 #55

This Ferrets are Cool May 11 #62

A lot of Democrats would have had to have aided in that Kaleva May 12 #82

I disagree. I don't think Democrats actually "aided" in making trump president. I just think they were BComplex May 12 #92

I don't think it has to be a white guy EdmondDantes_ May 11 #17

Play it safe is not gonna cut it...a progressive fighter who touches the hearts and minds of the American people will!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #41

A safe choice won't help in the face of Republican cheating. Chemical Bill May 11 #21

The following boxes will have to be ticked: anamnua May 11 #22

I think RandySF May 11 #28

Republicans are not the only people who can go backwards. Turbineguy May 11 #29

There are no "white" democrats in the running. multigraincracker May 11 #30

Playing it safe will result in a loss. Morbius May 11 #31

He lost because he was 'swiftboated'. NT anamnua May 11 #42

I will grant the "Swiftboating" didn't help. Morbius May 11 #49

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #43

So how did Biden win in 2020? Polybius May 11 #67

Please not Newsom! WhiteTara May 11 #33

No, but Pritzger would be phenomenal! SheltieLover May 11 #47

agreed WhiteTara May 11 #53

Obv, not my choice to make, bug I feel it's critical to have a candidate SheltieLover May 11 #56

Lets HOPE we even have a Presidential election in 2028. NoMoreRepugs May 11 #36

Now THERE'S something to think about!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 11 #44

Looks like low key 'Bad Things About Democrats' from here. Kingofalldems May 11 #46

I don't think it is a good idea AZProgressive May 11 #50

We better not re-run 2024 Historic NY May 11 #52

I think it's a matter of giving the people what they want. If that's who they will support... pnwest May 11 #57

Race and safety are the wrong things to focus on. Renew Deal May 11 #60

Too obvious PeterIsMyBrother May 11 #61

Will diversity be important in a Vichy government? jalan48 May 11 #65

If Jasmine Crockett believes that, she is more than welcome to try and run herself in 2028 Polybius May 11 #68

No, the person who is going to win... JCMach1 May 12 #69

We should no more be looking for the "safest white boy" than we should be specifically looking for someone who is Ms. Toad May 12 #70

Quite possibly on a 'white boy', or at least a 'boy'... Jack Valentino May 12 #71

"I'd vote for the safest white boy, just not THAT safest white boy." betsuni May 12 #79

IF there are elections in '28. That is remarkably hopeful for the pessimistic DU. elocs May 12 #81

I hate it, but yes. Scrivener7 May 12 #83

I'm for whoever makes it through the primary Buckeyeblue May 12 #88

how about we just focus on having a mid term election right now? nt Javaman May 12 #89

christian, married straight white guy lindysalsagal May 12 #90

Whether we like it or not, Trump is revolutionary Iris May 12 #91

I would go for Chris Murphy in a heartbeat. I think the important thing is we not exclude travelingthrulife May 12 #94

I've spent so much money supporting women candidates ecstatic May 12 #95

No, they don't have to do that, but what we should not do is nominate someone who is polarizing. everyonematters May 12 #96

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone,,,,,,,,,,,, Ping Tung May 12 #98

This time we need to vote to win at all costs. My principle right now is to save our Democracy from these fascists. Scrivener7 May 12 #104

Not a fan of that kind of dismissive language.... Happy Hoosier May 12 #102

Rep Crockett is one of our best voices these days. So no, she doesn't. Scrivener7 May 12 #103

I like her. But if she's looking to aleinate people like me, she's succeeding. Happy Hoosier May 12 #105

The words "white boy" have alienated you, and therefore we'll lose? Scrivener7 May 12 #106

If a "White Boy" had campaigned like Kamala JI7 May 12 #107

This. A disturbing amount of sexism and racism is coming from inside the house. Scrivener7 May 12 #108

The power brokers need to stay out of this TheFarseer May 12 #109

If they want to get the white-boy votes stillcool May 12 #110