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27. This is a set-up

Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:48 AM

Apr 23

He wants to frame the narrative, as he has been doing all along, that Ukraine is the cause of the war and the reason there is no peace. Ukraine won't submit and give up land to psychopaths who invaded their country ? Well then, we'll just walk away because Ukraine is unreasonable. Victim blaming and victim shaming. Innocent Ukrainians are dying every day. This is a shame on the United States.

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Trump's "final offer" for peace requires Ukraine to accept Russian occupation [View all] riversedge Apr 23 OP

Trump can't force Ukraine to accept Russia after so many soldiers died fighting for Ukraine Walleye Apr 23 #1

Outrageous. highplainsdem Apr 23 #2

Hogwash... 2naSalit Apr 23 #3

Not that Trump could understand but this is a terrible precedent to set. Even worse if Ukraine can't join NATO dutch777 Apr 23 #4

Need to check the calendar again. I thought this was 2025, not 1938. Ray Bruns Apr 23 #5

What's next: Witkoff will travel to Moscow later this week for his fourth meeting with Putin, the White House announced riversedge Apr 23 #6

Not. Gonna. Happen. DJT can go fuck all the way off. LymphocyteLover Apr 23 #7

What's Putin's is Putin's. What isn't is negotiable. Sounds familiar. Eugene Apr 23 #8

I guess Trump believes... liberalgunwilltravel Apr 23 #9

Use a cholla! It'll hurt more. Linda ladeewolf Apr 23 #16

If Ukraine accepts Marthe48 Apr 23 #10

Agree a peace deal or US will walk away, Vance tells Ukraine and Russia muriel_volestrangler Apr 23 #11

It might be better under the circumstances if trump walked away. Linda ladeewolf Apr 23 #18

Nailed it! PortTack Apr 23 #23

Just what Ukraine needs - a major fuck-up like Vance running negotiations. mdbl Apr 23 #32

Wasn't that his first, second and third "offer" too? travelingthrulife Apr 23 #12

Fuck off Krasnov Botany Apr 23 #13

Well isn't this great? Ukraine gets attacked at the negotiation tables. bluestarone Apr 23 #14

aka he threw his hands up and the air and said, "I need a nap". nt Javaman Apr 23 #15

So ... surrender. mellow Apr 23 #17

Neither Pootie, nor trmp can be trusted and Zelensky knows it. louis-t Apr 23 #19

GOP sells out because the US is weak. bronxiteforever Apr 23 #20

This fool doesn't get it! It doesn't matter what the F you say...GO AWAY! PortTack Apr 23 #21

Take your, "final offer," and shove it Bayard Apr 23 #22

Hopefully Ukraine will tell Putin's puppet to shove it. republianmushroom Apr 23 #24

I hope Europe can hold the line against Russia and support Ukraine against this unholy pact. Martin68 Apr 23 #25

When this is all over, I will be bitterly upset if Trump is not a refugee hiding in Moscow. Moostache Apr 23 #26

This is a set-up blue-wave Apr 23 #27

Screw off drumphf & putin! Slava Ukraini! electric_blue68 Apr 23 #28

Time for a united Europe to help Ukraine. Chipper Chat Apr 23 #29

What happened to the 24-hours boast? "Well, I was being a little bit sarcastic when I said that," Ol Janx Spirit Apr 23 #30

Trump apparently doesn't know the meaning of "sarcasm". LudwigPastorius Apr 23 #35

He only recently discovered the word groceries and kindly brought it back to the common folks... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Apr 23 #37

All russians in the WH so what was to be expected? vapor2 Apr 23 #31

The peace deal isn't a peace deal. It's an ultimatum sakabatou Apr 23 #33

BREAKING: London Peace Talks COLLAPSE -- republianmushroom Apr 23 #34

Trump & Vance can go f@k themselves. sinkingfeeling Apr 23 #36

And he wants a Nobel Peace Prize for that. milestogo Apr 23 #38

Zelensky reposted a 2018 statement by former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo LetMyPeopleVote Apr 23 #39

Hell, it actually would NOT surprise me if TSF sent American troops in there to help bluestarone Apr 23 #40