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Bluetus

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13. The argument about imports is really fishy
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 12:23 PM
Apr 30

Imports and GDP are not directly related. But I guess economists use trade deficits to adjust total economic activity to net out the domestic product. The argument is that there was pre-loading of imports to try to beat the Trump tariffs, and that arithmetic will go the other direction next quarter.

But actual domestic production will not go up much, if at all. We can't set up manufacturing for all these goods in a quarter, or a decade, for that matter. Plus, we don't have the labor force. Trump is scaring away the people who do much of "our labor" for us.

It seems more likely that GDP will continue to go down, even with this adjustment. During the next 90 days, we will start seeing more commentary about the "wealth effect" disappearing. Since the flood of cash was pumped into the global economies in 2008, the markets have been white hot. Anybody who owns some equities thinks they are stinkin' rich, and they will spend their money loosely. But the tariffs are already starting to cause layoffs. The wealth effect can evaporate almost overnight. You see your neighbors losing their jobs, and suddenly you decide you really don't need that 60" teevee after all.

Remember, one more down GDP quarter and we will officially be in recession.

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I know you're working on PCE. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 30 #1
I had installed the Yahoo! Finance app on my idevices a couple weeks ago BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #6
if you want to read more on bloomberg use reader mode on your browser moonshinegnomie Apr 30 #7
Oh I know that little trick BumRushDaShow Apr 30 #10
It will be even worse for the 2nd quarter numbers moniss Apr 30 #2
Don't worry, everybody! The economy only contracted due to a massive increase in the trade deficit Prairie Gates Apr 30 #3
THE BEST...IS YET...TO COME!!!! Midnight Writer Apr 30 #4
Make America Grow Negatively Again IronLionZion Apr 30 #5
and the moron is blaming biden (of course) moonshinegnomie Apr 30 #8
The argument about imports is really fishy Bluetus Apr 30 #13
It Is Not The Arithmetic That Will Go In The Other Direction DallasNE Apr 30 #15
I agree with you. The economists have this backwards. Bluetus Apr 30 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Apr 30 #9
Why are Americans taking this?? Canada Kid Apr 30 #11
With all due respect. Keep this in mind ..People who voted for Trump are Trump. chouchou Apr 30 #18
And the orange Hitler is blaming President Biden for this! kimbutgar Apr 30 #12
Translation, If This Growth Trend Continues In The 2nd QTR DallasNE Apr 30 #14
And, right on cue, he blames Biden. SergeStorms Apr 30 #16
Make America G...glub...glub..glub... LudwigPastorius Apr 30 #17
Folks, two negative quarters in a row is NOT officially a recession. The NBER is the widely accepted arbiter of when progree May 1 #20
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