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Wiz Imp

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29. There are several problems with that. First, staff on admin leave still get paid so they haven't actually been fired.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:22 PM
May 2

The point of getting rid of these people is to save money so why would they continue paying them to do nothing? (I know that is happening with some of the "fired" workers, but it in no way accounts for most of workers who have been fired.

Second, regulations only permit administrative leave for 10 work days per year.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/12/17/2024-29139/administrative-leave-investigative-leave-and-notice-leave#:~:text=Under%20section%206329a(b)(,in%20any%20given%20calendar%20year.

Administrative leave is permitted—at an agency's discretion but subject to statutory and regulatory requirements—when an agency determines that no other paid leave is available under other law. Under section 6329a(b)(1), an agency “may place” an employee on administrative leave for no more than 10 total workdays in any given calendar year.


It appears this is being ignored.

This CNN article from late March had identified over 120,000 workers laid off and in their methodologies they explicitly state:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/tracking-federal-workforce-firings-dg

For this project, CNN is not tracking federal workers who are reinstated after their initial job impacts and is not tracking those placed on administrative leave or those who take voluntary buyouts.

So that is 120,000 jobs lost without including anyone placed on admin leave.

I trust BLS. I DO NOT trust OMB or OPM at this point. I am very skeptical that they are being honest with the public in terms of what is happening/has happened with Federal workers being terminated.

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Anyone but me question the validity of any numbers coming out of the ShitStains administration? NoMoreRepugs May 2 #2
I was going to ask the same question gab13by13 May 2 #3
I posted this in another thread but it's relevant here too. yardwork May 2 #6
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That was my immediate thought. yardwork May 2 #5
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Distrust in this government is warranted and necessary. gab13by13 May 2 #16
I think that's what I said, giving reasons why. Sorry if i wasn't clear ;) n/t Cheezoholic May 2 #17
BLS is still independent Johnny2X2X May 2 #11
Correct. Having worked on the Current Employment Statistics program for close to 35 years, Wiz Imp May 2 #14
Trump willblame them on Biden when they turn bad Johnny2X2X May 2 #15
Many federal workers no longer reporting to work are on mahatmakanejeeves May 2 #25
There are several problems with that. First, staff on admin leave still get paid so they haven't actually been fired. Wiz Imp May 2 #29
Fork in the Road, Part 2 mahatmakanejeeves May 2 #30
In my Rebl2 May 2 #19
first thing that popped into my head rurallib May 2 #28
i dont trust any data coming from this admin Fullduplexxx May 2 #31
Sincerely angrychair May 2 #8
See post #7 MichMan May 2 #9
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Those are good numbers considering FredGarvin May 2 #13
The Headline Number Is Better Than Expected, However DallasNE May 2 #22
Thanks. I'll have to add that to the calendar. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2 #26
Wouldn't that be the BIDEN payroll growth? Grins May 2 #23
Enjoy it while you can. louis-t May 2 #24
Long-term unemployed 27 weeks or longer as a percent of total unemployed progree May 2 #27
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That would have been a "disastrous" number during the Biden administration Orrex May 3 #33
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