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ProudMNDemocrat

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7. Time to look at the M'Naghten Rule regarding insanity, which this man will likely use...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jun 16

The M'Naghten rule is a legal test for determining insanity in criminal cases. It essentially states that a defendant is not guilty by reason of insanity if, at the time of the crime, they were suffering from a disease of the mind that prevented them from knowing either the nature and quality of their act or that it was wrong. This rule is also known as the "right-wrong test". In Vance Boelter's case, his attorneys may use this ploy to determine that their client is NOT GUILTY by reasons of insanity. Vance Boelter KNEW what he did was WRONG.

A case in point from February 1988 of the murder that took place in Rochester, Minnesota involving a family my husband and I knew and my children knew the younger children involved through the small Catholic School they all had attended. It is a long story and the brutal deaths at the hands of an older son towards his parents and younger siblings remain embedded in my memory forever. The youngest member of the family attended my son's 11th Birthday party that previous Friday before the murders took place the following Ash Wednesday. They had been friends and classmates since 1st Grade. The murder, the reference hearing, and eventual trial left a mark on my son that plagued him for many years as he suffered from PTSD when in his teen years.

The person in question, David Brom, murdered his family and younger siblings. His attorney, who I knew, used the M'Naghten Rule to try to get David off after it was determined through the Court system that David would be tried as an Adult for this terrible crime, rather than that as a Juvenile. He was 16 at the time of the murders. The District Court in Olmsted County tried David as an Adult and was found Guilty on 4 counts of Murder in the 1st Degree. David is currently serving time in prison for this and will be eligible for a parole hearing when he is 70. To this day, he has expressed no remorse for what he had done.

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Preacher trying to make the world safe for his beliefs so he can control people. /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 16 #1
Conservative, religious................ Lovie777 Jun 16 #2
and deeply disturbed. nt Javaman Jun 16 #3
So...is he now going to say that he was mentally ill, BECAUSE he was too religious and conservative? Baitball Blogger Jun 16 #4
Time to look at the M'Naghten Rule regarding insanity, which this man will likely use... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 16 #7
Knew enough to run away and hide IbogaProject Jun 16 #15
He texted his friend that he did something bad. He knew what he was doing and he knew it was wrong. chowder66 Jun 16 #19
Smart enough to dress that SUV up like a police vehicle complete with flashing lights Bengus81 Jun 16 #8
That was my thought as well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 16 #11
No, he needs to be given the Luigi treatment Owens Jun 16 #20
Nothing says "pro-life" like cold-blooded murder! N/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 16 #5
+1000 Rhiannon12866 Jun 16 #6
As Voltaire said....... Farmer-Rick Jun 16 #23
Mindless MAGA stormtrooper! Canada Kid Jun 16 #9
I am the lord thy god thou shall not have stranger gods before me. twodogsbarking Jun 16 #10
when the religious fringe rules et tu Jun 16 #12
How many abortions did Boelter prevent by shooting those people? Martin Eden Jun 16 #13
Controlling fantasists find power on church stage Easterncedar Jun 16 #14
He was NOT DEEPLY RELIGIOUS orangecrush Jun 16 #16
Apparently he didn't obey the 6th commandment, Emile Jun 16 #17
Which other commandments does he ignore? PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 16 #27
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jun 16 #18
No, he wasn't Marthe48 Jun 16 #21
Nope. "Deeply religious" and "murderous bastard" are actually oxymorons. malthaussen Jun 16 #22
Deeply religious? Beowulf42 Jun 16 #24
Devout Christianevangelical hater. travelingthrulife Jun 16 #25
The same type of people behind Project 2025 n/t AntiFascist Jun 16 #32
He seems to have forget the Thou shalt not kill part of the Ten Commandments. kimbutgar Jun 16 #26
I have a serious question. Jilly_in_VA Jun 16 #28
Deeply religious, yep Jesus would be proud. What the fuck is wrong with these people. OverBurn Jun 16 #29
Once more: the separation of church and state is essential. NM Grins Jun 16 #30
How can you be deeply religious and murder doc03 Jun 16 #31
White "christian" nationalists Nigrum Cattus Jun 16 #33
You nailed it. H2O Man Jun 17 #41
Shame on those "friends and former collegues!" Jean Genie Jun 16 #34
I resent the use of the phrase "deeply religious" slightlv Jun 16 #35
As an unrepentant Christian he should know he'll go to hell for murder, pride, anger, and other deadly sins. His ancianita Jun 16 #36
He couldn''t be that religious if he completely ignores the 6th Commandment ... aggiesal Jun 16 #37
I don't Rebl2 Jun 16 #38
Could have been a hit man womanofthehills Jun 16 #39
If he's deeply religious, then perhaps he has a shallow religion! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 17 #40
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 17 #42
Yes, he is religious. It provides the framework for his life and how he views the world LuvLoogie Jun 17 #43
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