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Ocelot II

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6. He is facing state charges; he's already been charged with murder under state law.

Reply to groundloop (Original post)

Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:58 AM

Jun 2025

He can be prosecuted by both the state and the feds, just like Derek Chauvin was for George Floyd's murder. I'm guessing the federal charges might relate to firearms, since murder is a state law offense unless the victim is a federal official. Federal charges don't make the state case go away.

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Minnesota shooting suspect Vance Boelter expected to face federal charges: Sources [View all] groundloop Jun 2025 OP

Expect a full pardon AStern Jun 2025 #1

Yep, he needs both federal and state charges. Bev54 Jun 2025 #2

Maybe, markodochartaigh Jun 2025 #28

Not on state charges, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #31

Minnesota can still prosecute him on State charges. Jacson6 Jun 2025 #3

What would be the point? DJT would just pardon him. malthaussen Jun 2025 #4

I really don't think Krasnov would pardon this guy. So far, except for the 1/6 assholes, Ocelot II Jun 2025 #8

There's always the "stick it to the Libs" motive. malthaussen Jun 2025 #10

Trump uses the pardon power to obtain bribes. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #12

Stipulating, for the nonce, that you're right about his self-interest... malthaussen Jun 2025 #25

Can't recommend your post enough Scubamatt Jun 2025 #18

Well, markodochartaigh Jun 2025 #30

Trump was signaling to law enforcement that it's OK to go after Black people Ocelot II Jun 2025 #32

Yes, the State should press ahead and only allow the feds after IbogaProject Jun 2025 #5

He is facing state charges; he's already been charged with murder under state law. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #6

Let Minnesota try him. sinkingfeeling Jun 2025 #7

It will, no question; but the feds can try him too. It's not an either-or situation. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #9

A really bad idea, that opens him to pardon, and you can't try him twice. CanonRay Jun 2025 #11

State and federal charges can be brought against the same person Ocelot II Jun 2025 #13

Thanks again Ocelot II ArizonaLib Jun 2025 #17

Charges related to his hit list are what I'd expect at federal level jmowreader Jun 2025 #19

Double jeopardy doesn't apply to separate state and federal charges. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #20

Why? Because FBI was involved? travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #14

They seem to be basing federal jurisdiction on his use of an instrumentality Ocelot II Jun 2025 #21

The state needs to (and will) proceed as if no fed charges exist. Keeping him RockRaven Jun 2025 #15

Vance Boelter is FUBAR!!! ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2025 #16

Trump definitely wants Boelter on federal charges Quanto Magnus Jun 2025 #22

See above posts. The state prosecution will continue. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #26

Been A Dick Donald cannot pardon him for state charges and convictions, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #29

Targeting elected officials proves no political agenda IronLionZion Jun 2025 #23

Question. I'm thinking Minnesota officials will want to open many phones the killer contacted. bluestarone Jun 2025 #24

No, and they couldn't if they wanted to, which they don't. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #27