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Ocelot II

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32. Trump was signaling to law enforcement that it's OK to go after Black people

Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:41 AM

Jun 17

and kill them if necessary. The man was killed in the course of a chase down an alley, and the two cops tried to cover up the circumstances. Trump thought their sentences were too long, and he also said the guy was an "illegal," which he wasn't. He said, “They were arrested, put in jail for five years, because they went after an illegal, and I guess something happened where something went wrong and they arrested the two officers and put them in jail for going after a criminal — a rough criminal, by the way — and I’m actually releasing.” It was outrageous, of course, and he'd probably pardon Derek Chauvin for violating George Floyd's civil rights, except for the fact that, as in the current case, there was a parallel state murder prosecution, so Chauvin would just be moved from the federal prison back to the state prison.

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Minnesota shooting suspect Vance Boelter expected to face federal charges: Sources [View all] groundloop Jun 16 OP

Expect a full pardon AStern Jun 16 #1

Yep, he needs both federal and state charges. Bev54 Jun 16 #2

Maybe, markodochartaigh Jun 17 #28

Not on state charges, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #31

Minnesota can still prosecute him on State charges. Jacson6 Jun 16 #3

What would be the point? DJT would just pardon him. malthaussen Jun 16 #4

I really don't think Krasnov would pardon this guy. So far, except for the 1/6 assholes, Ocelot II Jun 16 #8

There's always the "stick it to the Libs" motive. malthaussen Jun 16 #10

Trump uses the pardon power to obtain bribes. Ocelot II Jun 16 #12

Stipulating, for the nonce, that you're right about his self-interest... malthaussen Jun 17 #25

Can't recommend your post enough Scubamatt Jun 16 #18

Well, markodochartaigh Jun 17 #30

Trump was signaling to law enforcement that it's OK to go after Black people Ocelot II Jun 17 #32

Yes, the State should press ahead and only allow the feds after IbogaProject Jun 16 #5

He is facing state charges; he's already been charged with murder under state law. Ocelot II Jun 16 #6

Let Minnesota try him. sinkingfeeling Jun 16 #7

It will, no question; but the feds can try him too. It's not an either-or situation. Ocelot II Jun 16 #9

A really bad idea, that opens him to pardon, and you can't try him twice. CanonRay Jun 16 #11

State and federal charges can be brought against the same person Ocelot II Jun 16 #13

Thanks again Ocelot II ArizonaLib Jun 16 #17

Charges related to his hit list are what I'd expect at federal level jmowreader Jun 16 #19

Double jeopardy doesn't apply to separate state and federal charges. Ocelot II Jun 16 #20

Why? Because FBI was involved? travelingthrulife Jun 16 #14

They seem to be basing federal jurisdiction on his use of an instrumentality Ocelot II Jun 16 #21

The state needs to (and will) proceed as if no fed charges exist. Keeping him RockRaven Jun 16 #15

Vance Boelter is FUBAR!!! ProudMNDemocrat Jun 16 #16

Trump definitely wants Boelter on federal charges Quanto Magnus Jun 16 #22

See above posts. The state prosecution will continue. Ocelot II Jun 17 #26

Been A Dick Donald cannot pardon him for state charges and convictions, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #29

Targeting elected officials proves no political agenda IronLionZion Jun 16 #23

Question. I'm thinking Minnesota officials will want to open many phones the killer contacted. bluestarone Jun 16 #24

No, and they couldn't if they wanted to, which they don't. Ocelot II Jun 17 #27