From the river to the sea . . .

[relayerbob]

3. Well, if 1695 is our baseline

then we'd best all start packing up and heading back to Europe. Humans have migrated and moved for our ENTIRE existence, and this argument, which I have seen elsewhere is both ridiculous and specious.

BOTH peoples have a right to live in peace without fear of attack.The rulers of each side don't want to accept that. Hamas is evil, Netanyahu is a tyrant. But that doesn't justify ethic cleansing of EITHER population.

But no one has the right to claim that since group A or B owned land centuries ago, that therefore, any and all subsequent claims are void. This would create utter chaos in the world. Where do we draw the line? And how is this different from Germany's annexations and claims of WW2? Ukraine would need to surrender to Russia immediately ... or maybe the other way around such Kieven Rus was a great state before Muscovy even had a farm on it. Maybe we need to go back further. Is all of the Eastern Med really Greek because Alexander the Great and his descendants ruled there? Maybe the Mongols should own most of Asia. Perhaps we should look for all the people with the highest concentration of Neanderthal genes and send them to Europe and remove everyone else.

We are here. And now. And once again, BOTH peoples have a right to live in peace without fear of attack.