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Lonestarblue

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2. So if Israel says that there are half a million Hamas fighters in Gaza, that gives them the right to kill
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:14 AM
Dec 2023

a million innocent Palestinians. This is disgusting, and I suspect the true number is closer to a few hundred Hamas fighters killed among the 15,000+ civilians killed.

Israel has always pursued a policy of disproportionate force, and it is doing so in Gaza with the aim of destroying the whole economy so that no one can live there.

“Despite massive Israeli attacks backed by a near-unlimited supply of bombs and missiles and intelligence support from the United States, Hamas continues to fire rockets. Moreover, it retains a substantial paramilitary ability with 18 of the original 24 active paramilitary battalions intact, including all 10 in southern Gaza.

. . .

The doctrine [of disproportionate force] has been used in Gaza during the four previous wars since 2008, especially the 2014 war. In those four wars, the IDF killed about 5,000 Palestinians, mostly civilians, for the loss of 350 of their own soldiers and about 30 civilians. In the 2014 war, Gaza’s main power station was damaged in an IDF attack and half of Gaza’s then population of 1.8 million people were affected by water shortages, hundreds of thousands lacked power and raw sewage flooded on to streets.

Even earlier, after the 2008-9 war in Gaza, the UN published a fact-finding report that concluded that the Israeli strategy had been “designed to punish, humiliate and terrorise a civilian population”.”


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/05/israel-disproportionate-force-tactic-infrastructure-economy-civilian-casualties

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I just don't have any words to use... Think. Again. Dec 2023 #1
Yeah, some things you just can't spin but I think both Israel and Hamas take turns trying. Just so sad! dutch777 Dec 2023 #5
Any? fly2man Dec 2023 #17
So if Israel says that there are half a million Hamas fighters in Gaza, that gives them the right to kill Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #2
misunderstanding what he saying fly2man Dec 2023 #20
Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #3
This is an incredibly tone deaf public statement, but it reflects the realities of war. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #4
World War II was the extreme that led to changes in the laws of war. Eugene Dec 2023 #6
I doubt very much that you will find more favorable statistics anywhere in the world Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #9
burden of proof fly2man Dec 2023 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #21
I suspect that there were no significant changes in the ratio of military vs civilian casualty ratios Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #22
burden of proof fly2man Dec 2023 #24
It was a tone deaf comment that recklessly failed to acknowledge the tragedy of civilian deaths. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #7
that means they eliminated 7500 Hamas. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #8
He forgot to mention that nearly half of the dead are children. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #10
Children Lithos Dec 2023 #13
For god's sake, give it up. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #14
Not disagreeing with you Lithos Dec 2023 #16
Telling the world you are proud of killing civilians Aussie105 Dec 2023 #11
As long as there is one member of Hamas, or any of their sympathizers, left alive The Mouth Dec 2023 #12
So you have no limit for civilian deaths? Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #15
the law fly2man Dec 2023 #19
I think that statistic is grossly inflated. patphil Dec 2023 #23
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