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AtheistCrusader

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95. First you have to establish that it is mockery.

Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:34 PM

Jan 2015

You KNOW the legal source of the FSM idea, and it is not mockery. It was deadly serious, during a court battle.

What it may have grown into after that fact, might be called mockery by some, might be genuine faith by others. I personally am consistent, I don't 'believe' people who claim it, just like I don't believe you. But I would not use my OPINION of the veracity of their belief as criteria to bounce them from the room.

And I haven't seen A&A do it. I've seen the A&A mods do it for people attacking other people, not simply standing there and saying 'this is what I am'. Prophet 451 is a luciferian Satanist. He posts in A&A from time to time, and it has caused no shitstorm, because he talks about what he *is* not what he thinks others are.

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I would like to restart this group again and request to be made host. [View all] hrmjustin Dec 2014 OP

Good idea. I'd like to see this Group more active. rug Dec 2014 #1

You support my being host? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #2

+1 rug Dec 2014 #3

Thanks. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #4

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Great idea! You've got my vote! UrbScotty Jan 2015 #19

Thanks so much for your support. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #20

I believe that this is a mis-statement RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #21

Mocking prayers or giving believers a hard time for praying is not appropriate here. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #22

Well, it was done to me. TWICE in the same day! RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #23

What do you believe that is so upsetting to others? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #24

What was so upsetting RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #29

What is your view of other religions and atheism? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #30

Hey, whatever people want to believe in RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #31

When did you get ordained? what training did you have to have? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #32

I was ordained last year. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #33

ok. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #34

Twenty bucks. rug Jan 2015 #38

That is what I thought. thanks. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #39

I know, it is a steal, to become an Ordained Minister it runs $49.99! snooper2 Jan 2015 #43

The point was that flying spaghetti monster posts are not allowed in this room. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #44

So if various governments already have accepted/authorized this religion it isn't good enough? snooper2 Jan 2015 #50

No and as host of this room I ask you to stop posting this stuff in this room. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #51

I get it. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #53

The spaghetti monster is a parody on religion and as host I want to make clear it is not hrmjustin Jan 2015 #56

It may have been setup that way. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #62

Oh good, I'm all ears. rug Jan 2015 #70

In your religion, you might call it RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #73

We're talking about your "religion". Your need to compare shows its intent. rug Jan 2015 #74

Our intent is RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #76

Shit-stirring and mockery beies that. rug Jan 2015 #77

If your beliefs are legitimate and not a parody, I will apologize. rug Jan 2015 #25

We believe in this sort of heaven because we have FAITH. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #28

I see. Parody. rug Jan 2015 #35

Why do you ridicule? RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #36

Cutting through the crap, state why your alleged belief involves strippers. rug Jan 2015 #37

You should read the gospel and learn for yourself- snooper2 Jan 2015 #45

I have. It's bullshit. rug Jan 2015 #46

And it is not allowed in this room. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #49

Why is this any different RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #52

It was set up as a parody of religion. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #58

ORIGINALLY it was. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #61

I am sorry but I find that hard to believe. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #65

Well I find it hard to believe RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #68

Mocking religion is not allowed here and tge spaghetti monster thing is mocking us. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #69

I became an ordained minister in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster to get around AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #79

The fact remains that it will not be allowed in this room and that is final. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #81

You are a hypocrite. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #84

You came into this safe haven to call me a hypocrite? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #86

But you're being a hypocrite here, not there. Callouts are not allowed. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #87

And you think you should do it here? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #88

I wasn't the one that arranged that. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #89

Take it wherever you wish but leave it out of here. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #90

I don't believe it is 'meta' to object to you abusing someone in this room. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #91

Abuse! I told the person that it is not allowed! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #92

You told him HE is not allowed. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #93

Do the hosts of Atheists and agnostics allow material in the room that mocks hrmjustin Jan 2015 #94

First you have to establish that it is mockery. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #95

I haven't bounced anyone from this room yet. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #96

I didn't complain about the lock. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #97

Mocking is not tolerated in safe havens. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #98

I do see it. And I couch my response in the intent of the poster. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #99

How do you possibly propse allowing one person to use it and not allow others to do it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #100

I propose allow it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #101

I am sorry but the very fact that it is posted in here sets people off. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #102

The source of the FSM was not legal at all but an internet letter by Bobby Hendeson. rug Jan 2015 #115

If it's a scam, why did it give me EXACTLY what I wanted for a mere $20? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #131

That's it? They gave you a piece of paper for $20 so it's not a sham? (I said sham; you said scam.) rug Feb 2015 #132

Oh no you don't. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #136

It's highly effective. Walls are cumbling as we speak. rug Feb 2015 #139

So which do you prefer? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #142

Anything that doesn't include a kitchen utensil. rug Feb 2015 #148

And yet, a clown car is exactly what I needed, and exactly what the issue merited. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #149

Who the hell said I want to impress you? rug Feb 2015 #153

I'm sorry the conversation didn't go the way you hoped it would. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #155

I don't mnd conversations but the hemorrhaging of your life's hurts is not that. rug Feb 2015 #156

More like a life of seeing other people get hurt by various organizations. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #158

A yacht! okasha Feb 2015 #150

Why is an email from Nigeria different from an email from your bank? rug Jan 2015 #59

I never get email from either. n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jan 2015 #47

Before you continue posting in this room please read this thread. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #48

So mocking is okay against Pastafarianism RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #75

You can think whatever you want but the flying spaghetti monster parody is ment to mock hrmjustin Jan 2015 #78

No, the original purpose was a fulcrum by which to win a court battle AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #80

Whatever. it is not allowed in this room. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #82

OK, so much for religious tolerance then. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #83

I as host have made the rules clear. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #85

And your mocking my legitimate faith RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #103

Mocking? how am I mocking you? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #104

You are mocking it by RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #106

It was set up as a way to mock religion! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #107

So were other religions. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #110

Do what you like but while I am host this is not allowed in here. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #112

So this is normal... RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #113

I don't knos the boss and I don't have the gold. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #114

It was not. Saying it over and over doesn't make that true. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #133

Point is it is banned from this room. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #135

So, going forward, I trust that you will state just that, and not AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #138

It is a mockery despite what you say. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #140

Have a good night. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #144

Thank you. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #145

I'm going to finish 'talking' with Rug about that tangent, and then AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #146

That is fine. you say what you need to. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #147

Wrong. Here's the text of the decision. rug Jan 2015 #116

Wrong case, my mistake. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #130

The difference is, Russell never said the teapot was real. rug Feb 2015 #134

And as such, it is useful as a logical/philosophical proposition only. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #137

Neither do lies and liars. rug Feb 2015 #141

Well, that rules one of us out. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #143

It was "banished' okasha Jan 2015 #26

Just because a religion's beliefs is different from your's RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #27

I:m not a host here, but I'd like to suggest a protocol. okasha Jan 2015 #40

Yes. Be kind and peaceful. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #41

No mocking? Have you read some of the responses in this thread...?? PoutrageFatigue Jan 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jan 2015 #55

Spaghetti monster threads are not tolerated in this room. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #57

Very tolerant of you Justin. PoutrageFatigue Jan 2015 #63

Read the rules! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #64

Very disingenuous of you, poutrage. rug Jan 2015 #72

You forgot Pagan, Zoroastrian, Rosacrucian, Tao, Sikh, Jain RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #105

That is not true. if you had read the threads in this room you would know I posted prayers hrmjustin Jan 2015 #109

I'm a pagan. okasha Jan 2015 #129

Yeah. Beer volcanos and strippers. rug Jan 2015 #71

Oh? And a talking snake and RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #108

So it is clear what you are doing here now. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #111

Ah, here we have it. rug Jan 2015 #117

I think he just did. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #118

I take that as an admission from you that FSM is in fact "stupid satire". rug Jan 2015 #119

You simply do not understand my point RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #120

Why should we be tolerant of something being done to mock us? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #121

For the nth time RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #124

Yes we are tolerant but as host of this room I will not allow religion to be mocked. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #125

No, you are not. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #126

No and I am not going to. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #128

I'll be honest with you. I can tolerate just about any belief. rug Jan 2015 #122

That's your opinion. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #123

That's my direct observation. rug Jan 2015 #127

OK Here goes RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #151

A nonanswer demonstrating your only concern is using this farce to attack other religions. rug Feb 2015 #152

You really RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #154

Lol, you post this patently dishonest nonsense in a safe haven and you accuse me of trolling? rug Feb 2015 #157

No way. RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #159

! rug Feb 2015 #160

Good advice. rug Jan 2015 #42

Safe travels in this journey Justin Peacetrain Jan 2015 #66

Thanks Peacetrain! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #67

I have let this thread go on long enough. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #161