"OWS - Where have they gone?"

[MADem]

40. When you have leaders who take responsibility and have the authority to act for the benefit of the

group, who have been chosen by the group, who are supported by the group, the group thrives.

OWS was a bunch of great ideas, but the execution--and the hangers-on--doomed it.

Why in the world are you asking so many irrelevant questions? Why are you making assumptions and comparisons that are absurd? Environmental organizations that partner with corporations? NO. Democratic Party? NO.

Why do you think it is impossible for an organization to spring up ... and grow their own LEADERS? All by themselves, in autonomous fashion? That the only way that they can do it is to "partner?"

Who thinks like that? What a passive POV! You prove my point...

OWS wasn't "a flare, a signal." If that's what you think it was, you weren't onboard with people on this very board who were calling it the movement to end all movements that was gonna change everything and get those "banksters" on the run. Yeah, that worked....not.

Maybe with some leadership and focus, though, it might have worked. There was no reason for that energy to have been "symbolic" or a harbinger of future events. With LEADERSHIP, it could have been happening already and been raging like a house afire.

I guess there were too many of the "Everybody gets a trophy" club in those crowds. You want omelets? Ya gotta break eggs. There were potential leaders in those little campgrounds, they were constrained from rising, like creme, to the top, by a stupid protocol that served to doom the effort from the git-go.

It's no accident that the best "OWS" demonstrations had a ton of UNION help organizing them. Unions know leadership. They "get" organization.

It was a shame, too--the concept was great, the execution (too much camping, too much standing around hand waving) just sucked. It was exasperating.

That's why the people melted away--too much talk, not enough walk.