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seabeyond

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38. i have spent a lifetime
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:48 AM
Feb 2013

watching behavior and seeing how it affects us individually and as a whole.

when stepping into feminism, it was because i saw our society had shifted from progression of women to a backlash toward women in the early 2000's. i had no knowledge of other groups approaches to feminist issues. i assumed that all women saw it, and saw it the same way or they were not feminists, but oppressed living in a world of acceptance because of personal experiences or the unwillingness to be confrontational and take it on.

i have raised children, watching how their environment shapes who they are.

i have spent a lifetime shedding those cloaks that i have been given.

i see radfem going to the core of the creation of creating the control/dominance of men and doing it by demeaning, degrading, subjugating, creating a false image of who we are.

i see radfem as addressing that core. until we are able to distill the myths that we have created, we will never have an equality. liberal feminist go after changing the legal system. spiritual goes after goddess/man/woman who we are (which is kinda fun). but, what i have seen today, that i think has backfired and has many 3rd wave feminist addressing, is this feminism is individual and believing the battle against women is over.

i have never agreed that to address any issue, it is thru individualism. a movement cannot be had, and accomplishments cannot be made if it is all on individual preference in the name of a groups advancement. in so many areas of my life, individual choice, as a family, a community, a nation, taking the greater good of the whole, rather than the individual choice, create progression.

i had no idea what all these groups are and over the last year have listened and read on the subject. rad fem is not all that radical. those that see it as women being radical are not familiar with the definition. but, radfem is the feminism that challenges us at the core of who we see we are. and that is the most "fearful" challenge for so many. to walk away from the comfort of the definition that society gives us.

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They wish we pesky women would shut up LiberalEsto Feb 2013 #1
backlash. it is being worked as hard and fast as it can be, for sure, nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #4
It would be helpful Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #2
are there in the rad fem movement? seabeyond Feb 2013 #3
I took a class on the rhetoric and history of Second Wave Feminism, ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #6
That's great you are taking interest. Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #9
Questions for those who were politically aware during the 60s: ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #5
izzz a baby. didnt know nuthing 'bout nuthin'. lol. seabeyond Feb 2013 #7
Awesome. Thanks. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #8
Do your own homework! redqueen Feb 2013 #10
Thanks for the comments, redqueen! nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #33
i have spent a lifetime seabeyond Feb 2013 #38
The Reports of the Death of Feminism Are Greatly Exaggerated Demeter Feb 2013 #11
"Death of Feminism Are Greatly Exaggerated". interesting. i hadnt been paying attention. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #15
I had always considered myself a liberal feminist ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #12
i think our men fems have told us we are not suppose to like twisty. she said something somewhere seabeyond Feb 2013 #16
Was there a problem with the photo in the article? Bonobo Feb 2013 #13
you tell me. is there a problem with a woman warrior? seabeyond Feb 2013 #14
"Nothing to do with the article" Bonobo Feb 2013 #17
They're not "African American slaves" or even "men". They're fucking zombies. redqueen Feb 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #27
you are really stretching here. it is from a movie, a woman warrior. seabeyond Feb 2013 #19
I know you don't consume Walking Dead media, so I'll clue you in. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #37
thank you for this information. i had no idea, but it is sounding even less like an issue seabeyond Feb 2013 #39
Of course you do, because, like that NEVER happens ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #21
It happens in movies, you are right. Too often. Bonobo Feb 2013 #22
Again, she kills ZOMBIES. redqueen Feb 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #28
They're zombies. Lots and lots of zombies are killed in that story. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #36
Fuck no ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #20
If disruption and misrepresentation is all you have to offer this group.... JTFrog Feb 2013 #30
sometmes i find the jury comments very interesting. thanks jt. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Feb 2013 #32
Walking Dead is awesome. Michonne is awesome. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #35
Y'know, Bonobo, more often than not I think you're an okay guy. Even when we disagree. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #44
Here we go again...... Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #23
lol. and something that is not even relevant and made up. i am going back up to zombie and answer seabeyond Feb 2013 #24
Good point. Logic and reason are useless when honest discussion is not the goal. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #26
Some men (and their female champions) try very hard MadrasT Feb 2013 #29
They like to interchange feminist separatists boston bean Feb 2013 #34
i had to look up Separatist feminism. thank you BB. you are right. seabeyond Feb 2013 #42
You'd think they don't know how to google or read. redqueen Feb 2013 #40
radfem challenges the very core of who we are. how we identify with self. many feel it an attack seabeyond Feb 2013 #41
Kick redqueen Dec 2013 #43
helen reddy. do you see? i miss helen reddy. so... seabeyond Dec 2013 #45
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