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BainsBane

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36. I get told all the time I'm a "radical feminist"

Wed Dec 11, 2013, 05:37 PM

Dec 2013

I fail to see what is radical about my views on gender. They are pretty basic. All human beings deserve equal rights. Women's rights are human rights. Rape is a serious crime whether committed against men, women, boys, or girls and should be treated as such. Rape culture is a problem and we must work to combat it. Combating includes challenging victim blaming and rape apology. No accused rapist is above the law. It doesn't matter how great a guy you think someone is; victims still deserve their day in court. Domestic violence against women in particular is a serious problem. No one should have to lead their lives in fear of violence in any form, whether from a stranger, a partner, or a family member.

I'll admit to being a radical on economic/class issues, but my position on feminism and equal rights is pretty basic.

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What I learned today on DU: [View all] xulamaude Dec 2013 OP

Nothing until just now, when I learned Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #1

The only thing that really scares me about that... lmFao, that was funny. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #4

I'm 'possibly sure' that your wife need not worry xulamaude Dec 2013 #9

I learned gollygee Dec 2013 #2

It is. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #13

I know a few Republicans BainsBane Dec 2013 #14

ah. my father. the reasonable republican, a lifetime that voted obama. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #18

My brother in law did in 2008 BainsBane Dec 2013 #19

Sometimes I wish I didn't learn so much on DU. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #3

Or that people didn't know so much that ain't so... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #29

uplifting messages, no matter how positive, should be suspect if backed by a shampoo company LanternWaste Dec 2013 #5

It is strange that it only airs in some other country. xulamaude Dec 2013 #12

You mean they're tired of being devalued, raped, beaten in their own homes? Warpy Dec 2013 #6

It's WAR I tell you! xulamaude Dec 2013 #7

where did you see this revere call: the feminists are comin', the feminist are comin'.... lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #11

i learned i could say happy holiday to a fellow duer i have been battlin' with for a long long time, seabeyond Dec 2013 #8

Maybe I should start a whole new thread xulamaude Dec 2013 #10

Ugh ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #15

The thread was so bad that there isn't even a joke xulamaude Dec 2013 #16

I read somewhere recently - it could have been here xulamaude Dec 2013 #17

Brave women fear nothing BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #31

I learned to like a DUer ot two that I never knew at all before today. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #20

That's wonderful! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #21

Dammit! You guys never send me the memo. Who are we at war with? I don't even know where to go! Squinch Dec 2013 #22

You are scary. I want to hang with you. Ah ha. Nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #23

Oh, NOW you want to hang with me! Squinch Dec 2013 #24

You betcha. Positioned more like, behind you. Nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #28

Dang. It seems that the quarter-amazon-master xulamaude Dec 2013 #25

. Squinch Dec 2013 #26

I learned that cutting wo rker salaries to increase "defense" spending MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #27

oh wow. what board are we on? looking around. wow. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #30

Are you serious? ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #32

That if I think a school are right to enforce their regulations on inappropriate touching KitSileya Dec 2013 #33

because boys will be boys? would that be the 6 yr old kissing? i didnt go into the thread. seabeyond Dec 2013 #34

Yes. This gets me so worked up - KitSileya Dec 2013 #43

yes. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #51

Tickling... xulamaude Dec 2013 #58

Was that the 6 year-old kissing thread? xulamaude Dec 2013 #35

It is indeed. KitSileya Dec 2013 #46

Like Sea, I stayed outta that one. xulamaude Dec 2013 #48

bah hahaha. and me? i am waaaay tired of this not thinking thru that creates a world of hurt for seabeyond Dec 2013 #52

Wow. There are two threads on that boy being suspended. redqueen Dec 2013 #59

To be honest, tho, I think the lack of replies were because there was no disagreement KitSileya Dec 2013 #61

There was a lot more to the story. redqueen Dec 2013 #62

I get told all the time I'm a "radical feminist" BainsBane Dec 2013 #36

here you go. a definition of radical fem. see how very radical it is. like it is an insult. seabeyond Dec 2013 #37

so it doesn't involve separatism? BainsBane Dec 2013 #38

yup. but forget the actual definition. remember, we are working with people here that REdefine seabeyond Dec 2013 #39

with very antiquated views, IMO BainsBane Dec 2013 #40

i kept getting insulted being called radical. looked it up and was all over.... wha? that is seabeyond Dec 2013 #41

Hey, why not BainsBane Dec 2013 #42

It's not :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #45

No, it doesn't at all :) nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #47

Radical feminism does not involve separatism by default. MadrasT Dec 2013 #54

It's funny how hard some people work to push that radfem = transphobe shit, isn't it? redqueen Dec 2013 #60

you mean the mens group obsession? and they just want to get people worked up to get women kicked seabeyond Dec 2013 #63

I hear someone there accused me of being a transphobe BainsBane Dec 2013 #69

They're doing the same thing Fox News does, it's like redqueen Dec 2013 #79

To elaborate on 'separtism': xulamaude Dec 2013 #56

It is pretty basic. xulamaude Dec 2013 #44

That's how I feel BainsBane Dec 2013 #49

Call me a ham hoagie, what do I care? lol :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #50

we didnt even know about the damn waves 2 yrs ago. we had to educate ourselves fast, seabeyond Dec 2013 #53

I know, right? MadrasT Dec 2013 #55

yup. saw and gonna read in a bit. i am an odd gus, how i go about reading OPs. lol. but, seabeyond Dec 2013 #57

So glad you did! redqueen Dec 2013 #64

+ a gazillion chervilant Dec 2013 #78

I learned that people don't always read... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #65

I don't know which post you are referring to BainsBane Dec 2013 #66

Well I can't imagine that it was coincidence... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #72

Oh no BainsBane Dec 2013 #73

What thread are you talking about? redqueen Dec 2013 #67

My apologies. You are right-- it was Feminists... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #70

I've heard of that book BainsBane Dec 2013 #71

This part... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #74

Given you raised it again (thinking you had already mentioned it here) BainsBane Dec 2013 #75

The book probably has lots of lessons, but I was... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #76

We don't always draw blood BainsBane Dec 2013 #77

Ah no need to apologize, no harm no foul. redqueen Dec 2013 #80

Could you provide links BainsBane Dec 2013 #68

Hi TB. There was no misreading on my part and I think it is/would be clear xulamaude Dec 2013 #82

Short answer BainsBane Dec 2013 #84

Well, it didn't sound like a joke... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #86

"some ideologies can have social dangers as real as physical ones." xulamaude Dec 2013 #87

what i learned, stepping into 6 yr old boy thread. the same people that tell us it is cool buying seabeyond Dec 2013 #81

Sure, it's "normal" behavior xulamaude Dec 2013 #83

having two boys, i would adamently say that the progressive behavior of harassment is anything close seabeyond Dec 2013 #85

one came out and just blamed women for being raped JI7 Dec 2013 #102

and more than one are attacking the mother and little girl. starting early blaming the victim. seabeyond Dec 2013 #103

Some incredible displays of internalized patriarchy in those threads. redqueen Dec 2013 #109

"they side so willingly with Fox News spin" i totally recognize that hypocrisy... but, seabeyond Dec 2013 #110

Did you try alerting? BainsBane Dec 2013 #104

it was already and the post was hidden JI7 Dec 2013 #105

Did you check to see if he is still an active member? BainsBane Dec 2013 #106

Still active... nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #108

Oooo, oooo, ooo xulamaude Dec 2013 #88

huh. are you allowed to be gay? or does that make you a genderist. only having sex with seabeyond Dec 2013 #89

Or like, what if I choose to xulamaude Dec 2013 #90

i personally do not like trash. i have always stayed away from it. i even have the boys take seabeyond Dec 2013 #91

Really? Does that apply to gay men as well? BainsBane Dec 2013 #92

Heh. MadrasT Dec 2013 #93

The lack of empathy is stunning. redqueen Dec 2013 #94

Bah, rape. Incest shincest BainsBane Dec 2013 #95

*This* smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #162

*this* lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #163

Today I learned that Cathy Brennan is the leader of de eeebul dangerius radfems! redqueen Dec 2013 #96

I have nothing to say about Cathy Brennan except xulamaude Dec 2013 #97

Have you seen that assertion before? redqueen Dec 2013 #98

Yes I have seen that before xulamaude Dec 2013 #99

I wasn't aware that she had followers. redqueen Dec 2013 #100

meh... who? nt lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #101

Actually I should ammend my 'followers' statement xulamaude Dec 2013 #107

Today I learned that correcting a lie is the same thing as caring about the person used to smear redqueen Dec 2013 #111

and dealing with the bullies ended up meaning being fired. so in essence, shut the fuck up. yes... seabeyond Dec 2013 #112

Just countering distortions and disinformation. redqueen Dec 2013 #127

yes. thank you for the clarification. i totally get that, agree and have seen it myself. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #128

Ah, yes, Andrea 'The Hut' Dworkin... xulamaude Dec 2013 #114

flynts own words, 3 yrs. these women have three years and his industry chews them up and spits them seabeyond Dec 2013 #118

And he should know, right? xulamaude Dec 2013 #119

yes, he is the one in the know. and yes, his words. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #121

oh, and this is also the man we hale as the hero of liberals and cheer him, when he sticks a dick in seabeyond Dec 2013 #122

This strong feminist voice was hardly a man-hater seabeyond Dec 2013 #120

A gift for HOF: xulamaude Dec 2013 #123

how exciting. i am so downloading on my kindle. thank you. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #125

And doesn't it speak volumes that a misogynist like Flynt is a hero to them. redqueen Dec 2013 #130

I learned that racism is possibly a thing of the past ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #113

Hey! We're living in the post-racist age!! xulamaude Dec 2013 #115

But people have FRIENDS of color ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #134

As the old saying/joke goes: xulamaude Dec 2013 #136

i heard... NAACP.. "all help to keep the notion of "inequality" alive and well." so i said seabeyond Dec 2013 #124

Oh FFS ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #141

Recognizing when someone is a victim or a group of people are victims gollygee Dec 2013 #116

Nah, I'm pretty sure that it's the victimizers xulamaude Dec 2013 #117

and a 6 yr old must go in front of a camera and tell the word if she was good with the kiss or just seabeyond Dec 2013 #126

I get that individual victims might not want to think of themselves that way. redqueen Dec 2013 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author NoOneMan Dec 2013 #129

noonemans post. that he decided to self delete as i was replying. seabeyond Dec 2013 #131

Haaay ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #133

Thanks for capturing that. Good grief... nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #138

ya. i learned today nooneman does not like us. lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #140

LOL ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #142

ya know? lol.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #143

Oops! Looks like NoOneMan got lost! xulamaude Dec 2013 #132

LOL no shit... redqueen Dec 2013 #135

Somebody get that boy a GPS for xmas!! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #137

i learned the mens group new meme for us is we are fucking emotionally DAMAGED..... this is seabeyond Dec 2013 #144

arrogant, condescending fuckin bullshit. how many women hang with men that do that seabeyond Dec 2013 #145

That's at least a week or two old BainsBane Dec 2013 #146

i got it fuckin just now. and it wasnt me of course, that would be others in the thread. like seabeyond Dec 2013 #149

LOL gollygee Dec 2013 #147

well. that is a real duh. but when does reality matter when creating a caricature to shut you up seabeyond Dec 2013 #151

That's ok ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #148

ranting thru the house, trying to shut me up telling me i am emotionally damaged.... lol seabeyond Dec 2013 #152

The truth of the matter is that so many xulamaude Dec 2013 #150

'damaged goods'... thank you. THAT. THAT is what it feels like when i read it in the mens group seabeyond Dec 2013 #153

^^^ truth ^^^ MadrasT Dec 2013 #154

This is a very good point gollygee Dec 2013 #155

^^^ truth ^^^ MadrasT Dec 2013 #156

I was raised by a misanthropist ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #157

good post ism. i hear ya and if i suffered any damage, (i had the easy life) it si not messin with seabeyond Dec 2013 #161

THANK YOU redqueen Dec 2013 #159

The truth of the matter is it is just fucking rude, mean, and a powerplay. boston bean Dec 2013 #164

i dunno BB. if you think a person is "emotionally damaged" wouldnt you play nice? i would. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #165

This. This. This. Whether or not anyone is personally hurt or offended is beside the point. redqueen Dec 2013 #158

Uh oh! Looks like the post count is getting high enough xulamaude Dec 2013 #160

you. after we play out the emotional damage shit. cause you do it so well.... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #166

Here's a great thing to learn on DU gollygee Dec 2013 #167

ya. lets see if i get my seventh hide, lol. i may never get back on du. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #168

Sweet Jesus REALLY DU??? MadrasT Dec 2013 #170

Nice, huh? gollygee Dec 2013 #171

alert. everyone alert. skinner will get them all and read what we have to say. misogyny and seabeyond Dec 2013 #172

People who are on the receiving end of microaggressions are overly sensitive. gollygee Dec 2013 #169

never golly.... welll, they did hide a couple that were nothing. now, diss women, thumbs up. seabeyond Dec 2013 #173