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In reply to the discussion: Debunked: UN official's claim 14,000 Gazan babies could die in 48 hours was untrue [View all]Richard D
(9,867 posts)Remember how it started and who started it, and the brutal mass murder perpetrated by Hamas and Gazans.
If it was one-sided, i.e. if Hamas surrendered and released the hostages, the war would end that very same day.
Murder was what happened on Oct 7. Murder is what happened to the poor hostages that were shot in the head by Hamas.
I just don't understand people. Hamas has sworn to kill every Jew. Yet Israel is expected to do what? Surrender to Hamas? Allow them to regroup, re-arm, and attack again and again? Sure seems like that is the goal of much of the world.
To this day, new terror tunnels are being found, weapons caches are being discovered, and Jews are being killed. Shall we roll over and take it? Sure sounds like that is what is expected of us. That won't happen.
This war needs to be won decisively--so completely that there will never be a chance of another atrocity being committed on the Jewish people.
And yes, Gaza needs to be reformed. The public education system there is designed to create young Jihadis. That must change. A huge percentage of money (many billions of dollars) and goods being given to Gaza is going directly to enrich and supply Hamas. That needs to change.
As I have said, Israel never started a war, and they have never lost one. That won't change. We literally have nowhere else to go other than that tiny piece of land the size of New Jersey in the midst of a billion Arab people, many of whom want only our destruction. It's not about the land either. From 1948 onward, we tried to negotiate. All the negotiation agreements were broken.
In 2005, total control of Gaza was returned to the Gazans. They could have built a modern paradise there, but instead, they chose to build an empire of terror with their sole goal the destruction of Israel, our indigenous homeland for 3500 years.
Can there be peace? Prior to Oct 7, there could have been. They fucked up badly, and now they are paying the price. It's a heavy price, for sure, but what options, exactly, are there for Israel? I don't see any other than what is happening now.
A mythological two-state solution? That possibility died on October 7. They slaughtered many of the best of us, most of whom were people of peace who dedicated their lives to peaceful coexistence. They murdered their babies with their bare hands. Cut fetuses out of their mothers' wombs. Burned families alive.
They murdered not only this generation, but all future generations of those that they killed. That is not something that can be forgotten, ever.
Forgive me for not having virtue signaling compassion here. We've tried that for thousands of years, and still, they want to destroy us.
Recently, a Hamas document was found stating that the reason for the Oct 7 pogrom was to stifle the Abraham Accords with Saudi Arabia and other countries. There is still hope for that.
People reflexively believe the propaganda coming out of Qatar. The lie about the 44,000 starving children is the most recent and most egregious example. Who didn't believe it? Only Jews, it seems. And even though it was debunked, people still believe it. Why?
There is a lesson in that lie that few will be brave enough to consider: If you believed that lie, what other lies were told that are believed? This is a really important question, for that certainly was only one lie among many.
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