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111. I have to ask you if it is possible to separate nationalism from religion. Since you refer to all Israelis and defenders

Reply to Richard D (Reply #74)

Fri May 30, 2025, 11:25 AM

May 30

of Bibi and the IDF as Jews, then it would appear that you cannot or prefer not to make the separation, so, then of course ( to you), any anti-Israel policy is anti-semetic.

Not only is that problematic for other nations attempting a common sense playing field, but it makes no sense and is not helping anyone's cause. It also makes for a kind of "victimhood" that is warped from the reailty of Israel's unpopular ( on the world stage) policies.. What is mostly claimed is "they hate us b/c we're Jewish" and NOT the REALITY of "they hate us b/c of Bibi's policies"... Surely you can see the difference. I can say "Many around the world hate us b/c of the USA's foreign policies" and not feel slighted or victimized or attacked b/c I'm an American. Perhaps if I was a Christian Nationalist I could find a way to be offended if I really wanted to, is that sort of what's going on with you?

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